Nisse57

Regarding temperature control I'm thinking of a combination of schedules and motion for most rooms. E.g. for the kitchen/living room a schedule for comfort temperature 7.30-9, 12-13.30 and 18-22, but combined with motion control that lower temperature if no motion is detected during a 30 minutes period (to cover no show, or leaving early). When the room is on low temperature and motion is detected comfort temperature should be set, but now the "no motion interval" should be for example 5 minutes to not waste energy on quick in and outs (this also works as en extension of the scheduled comfort temperature time intervals). I live high up in the mountains were it is very cold during the winter, and heating actually is required more or less year around. The clever thing with the Genius system is that it does this, but you don't have to program it, it is self learning. However, the FGT seem to have an advantage in that it can start heating as soon as it detects motion while the Genius is based on LC-13 and hence suffers from the wake-up interval.

Ah, so the Fibaro marketing did not mention that you also have to have a motion detector to make this work. A bit misleading if you ask me. I assumed that the FGT also included motion detection because it has some feature to measure the room size. The house renovation does not start until April, so I'm still deciding on what system to buy, the Genius stuff, or Fibaro, but if the motion detection works I probably go with Fibaro even if I then have to also buy a detector for each room. Do I understand you correctly that I then have to have the HC2 for the Lua?

Thank you for the thorough response. Very helpful. Regarding the motion triggered temperature control, that info is from https://www.fibaro.com/en/products/the-heat-controller/ ("Thanks to the adaptive working mode, the radiator head will lower the temperature within chosen rooms, generating savings for you. However as soon as the Motion Sensor detects movement in a room it will raise the temperature to an optimum level."). I was planning to use Genius Hub, Genius TRV and Room Sensor to have a system with motion control (https://www.geniushub.co.uk/products/ ), but it looks like the FGT is a much more sophisticated TRV. However, I need to understand how the motion detection feature works, because the is crucial to me.

I am renovating a 10 room house and considering FGT to control the radiators. Many rooms are not used that often so I am interested in the adaptive working mode of the FGT but cannot find any details of how it works. It is supposed to use motion detection in the FGT to adapt the temperature, but how and where do you make that configuration. Does the FGT require a Homecenter to make this work, or can it work stand-alone.