How do you use Binary sensor?

[HomeSystem.sk 69]

Hey guys,

after long time I played a bit with my binary sensor, which I never got to use.

 

I had this idea to have some nice (ok not nice but ANY

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So I connected 2 cheap switches to In1 and In2, I connected small RGB strip to Out 1 (green color) and Out2 (blue).

And of corse I used 12V source.

 

It does not look amazing, but it does what I need. One button starts/stop radio (I am using Rocki play) and second one control lights. Of corse it can be used for anything. 

 

see it here:

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Maybe you can share your ideas and inspirations.

 

[akatar 208]

ideas to use a ubs?

 

connect one to youre mailbox, when opened bij mailman push message or mail

if you own a mailbox with a door to collect the mail, second input to that door to see if mail is collected (by wife)

[Mr Jack 10]

4 in 1

 

Used the UBS to monitor the performance and behavior of the High Efficient Central Heating and monitor the access door to the roof terrace

1 Temp sensor on the supply 

1 Temp sensor on the return

Calculated Delta T between the above.

1 Temp sensor in the room

This made it possible to do some manual adjustments and see the difference, It looks like I reduced the gas  usage a little

It is also possible to see the infuence of the boiler on the water temperature when not heating. At certain moments the return temperature is higer then the supply temperature. In other word the boiler is cooling down the water

It might be interesting to bypass the boiler at these moments 

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_{Aanvoer is Supply}

_{Retour is Return}

_{Ruimte is Room}

 

1 door sensor on the access door which will give me warning when it's still open late in the evening or when we leave the house. 

Outputs are not used for now.

[HomeSystem.sk 69]

can you share such VD for calculating this differences?

[Mr Jack 10]

As the VD used Dutch, I have made the translation

 

Create 3 labels in the VD with the following ID

deltat

supply

return

 

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_{Aanvoer is Supply}

_{Retour is Return}

 

_{106, 107 and 108 are the temp sensors}

_{109 is the VD}

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[petergebruers 1,265]

I use one as a scene controller, behind a double momentary switch. This tiny module + a tiny power supply turns the switches into a device that can send double click & hold sceneActivation command.

[sebaszz 2]

I connected one to IR-relay board. Now you can control lights and curtains for example with your tv remote.

[morpheus75 76]

i use the UBS for different things:

in an RFID keypad to arm/disarm my alarm system

in a doorbell circuit to activate a scene when someone rings door bell

i had standard door magnets on my doors so i have used 1 UBS for both doors using existing wiring

i have another 2 lots on my water heating/central heating system and solar thermal/solar export system plus temp sensors for monitoring

 

i think this is a wonderful and proper universal sensor for pretty much anything....

[AutoFrank 372]

 I use about 5 of them to collect temp around my house

 

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I built a hub around 3 of them so i could capture temp from the room over the cat cable already installed

 

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I also use two to capture open close on the front gate and garage door. (batteries were not lasting in the original fibaro contact sensor used)

 

They are a great little device

[rsjabbens 1]

Just a quick question, is it possible to use one or two temperature sensor(s) with the UBS and some other for other purposes, e.g. switch button, PIR sensor, door sensor, etc.? What can (or cannot) be connected to this device? 

 

I am thinking about monitoring my central heating temperature, just like Mr. Jack, to switch a Greenwave Powernode with my pump for the floor heating. When the Central Heating is on, and temperature of the Central Heating output is above some set temperature, i want to turn the flloor heating pump on, otherwise it can be off. I only need one (or maybe 2) temperature sensor(s) for this, the other i maybe can use for a PIR sensor

 

Is this possible?

 

Is it also possible to use the output separately from the input, e.g. can i just connect some potential free contact to the outputs and monitor this in HC2 to trigger some scene?

[morpheus75 76]

Just a quick question, is it possible to use one or two temperature sensor(s) with the UBS and some other for other purposes, e.g. switch button, PIR sensor, door sensor, etc.? What can (or cannot) be connected to this device? 

 

I am thinking about monitoring my central heating temperature, just like Mr. Jack, to switch a Greenwave Powernode with my pump for the floor heating. When the Central Heating is on, and temperature of the Central Heating output is above some set temperature, i want to turn the flloor heating pump on, otherwise it can be off. I only need one (or maybe 2) temperature sensor(s) for this, the other i maybe can use for a PIR sensor

 

Is this possible?

 

Is it also possible to use the output separately from the input, e.g. can i just connect some potential free contact to the outputs and monitor this in HC2 to trigger some scene?

i think i have an idea of what you are trying to do.

Currently i have 1 UBS connected to 3 temp sensors (4 are allowed), which are placed on my water tank.

I also use the 2 sensor IN1 and IN2 to monitor via electronic relays whether my boiler has been switched on for water or central heating.

this can then be used in scenes for further actions, which is just to send me push messages to Telegram.

i do have another fibaro dual relay which turns by boiler on with each output switching on the water or central heating.

I use the temperature values for the water sensors to let me know if the cylinder has any hot water left and to automatically turn on the water heating if the temp is below a pre-set value.

In your scenario you would still need an additional relay to activate the floor heating pump based on temp readings.

Re what you can use with the UBS then sensors only for the IN1 or IN2 terminals.

hope this helps

[rsjabbens 1]

i think i have an idea of what you are trying to do.

Currently i have 1 UBS connected to 3 temp sensors (4 are allowed), which are placed on my water tank.

I also use the 2 sensor IN1 and IN2 to monitor via electronic relays whether my boiler has been switched on for water or central heating.

this can then be used in scenes for further actions, which is just to send me push messages to Telegram.

i do have another fibaro dual relay which turns by boiler on with each output switching on the water or central heating.

I use the temperature values for the water sensors to let me know if the cylinder has any hot water left and to automatically turn on the water heating if the temp is below a pre-set value.

In your scenario you would still need an additional relay to activate the floor heating pump based on temp readings.

Re what you can use with the UBS then sensors only for the IN1 or IN2 terminals.

hope this helps

 

Thank you for your reply!

 

Yes, this seem to help, so if i am correct you can use 3 (or 4) temp sensors and use the IN1 and IN2 for some potential free contacts, i understand that you can ONLY use potential free contacts connected to the UBS. So in this case you get a total of 5 or 6 devices, 3 or 4 temperature devices and 2 devices to check if something is on/of or triggered somehow. Is this correct?

 

This should do the trick, i already have a GreenWave Powernode for the pump, so this should work. 

 

Some questions:

• In your case you have some relay between a regular powered device and the UBS, is that correct? What kind do you use? 
• How did you connect the temp sensors, they are just parallel connected to GND, TD and TP on the UBS, it doesn't matter that one temperature sensor has a longer connection from the UBS than another and they are just all connected directly to the UBS?

Thanks.

 

Regards,

Roland

[morpheus75 76]

Hi

The temp sensors are connected in parallel as you have stated above.  if i remember correctly you can go to about 30m away.

The IN1 and IN2 are potential free contacts connected to the 240v relays.  The 'L' is connected to the zone valve so that when the zone valve is activated then so is the relay.  This is done to both zone valves as i have a system boiler.  I have 2 valves, 1 for water and 1 for heating.  (If you have a combi boiler then you would need to check the boiler manuals for correct voltages and also external thermostat connections.)

On the relays i have connected the UBS blue wire to the 'common' and on the NC terminal i have connected the YELLOW and GREEN wires respectively to each relay.

On default UBS settings this means that the sensors are 'safe'. Once the valves are activated the relay is also activated and the sensor is then marked as breached.

this can the be used in scenes etc.

I personally am just monitoring usage at the moment.

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[Sankotronic 2,249]

 

I use it for sensing power outage in our house. I made small device see picture bellow. Of course same can be achieved with door/window sensor since it is battery powered (no need for UPS) and can be placed anywhere in the house . All you need is one 230V relay and fuse to protect it and door/window sensor. You can connect relay contacts to door/window sensor input and that's it. That is also good solution and is cheaper than using binary sensor with small power supply. I just used what I had available at that moment when I decide to make something about that.

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Any way no matter how you make it here is scene that will take care to notify you about power outage and do some stuff, and then watch sensor until electricity is back and again notify you and then do some stuff you need to do after power outage. Since I have a lot of Philips HUE bulbs which always turn On after power outage this scene first set them to default color and saturation and then depending on state of our house turn them off. Also I need to setup camera that will initalise after power outage but need to set it then as we want it.

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[rsjabbens 1]

Hi

The temp sensors are connected in parallel as you have stated above.  if i remember correctly you can go to about 30m away.

The IN1 and IN2 are potential free contacts connected to the 240v relays.  The 'L' is connected to the zone valve so that when the zone valve is activated then so is the relay.  This is done to both zone valves as i have a system boiler.  I have 2 valves, 1 for water and 1 for heating.  (If you have a combi boiler then you would need to check the boiler manuals for correct voltages and also external thermostat connections.)

On the relays i have connected the UBS blue wire to the 'common' and on the NC terminal i have connected the YELLOW and GREEN wires respectively to each relay.

On default UBS settings this means that the sensors are 'safe'. Once the valves are activated the relay is also activated and the sensor is then marked as breached.

this can the be used in scenes etc.

I personally am just monitoring usage at the moment.

see attached diagram for a basic wiring diagram

 

Thank you for this info! I'm going to set it up like this, with maybe some modifications. Probably take some time, but will post back to this thread with the final setup.

[Franz 1]

I use UBS:

 

- connected to push buttons used as keyboard to insert secret codes (of any length) to arm/disarm alarm or anything else that you want control by push buttons for key codes.

KeyCode a LUA program for a Digital Key with Fibaro UBS.

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- to remotely control a dimmer (dim up/down) by a push button away from the dimmer. I didn't have the possibility to use a wired connection between the push button and the dimmer: UBS with a LUA script has solved this problem.

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- to remotely control a dimmer (dim up/down) by a push button away from the dimmer. I didn't have the possibility to use a wired connection between the push button and the dimmer: UBS with a LUA script has solved this problem.

 

Ok, I you had a Fibaro binarry sensor lying around? Otherwise, I think just a switch / simmer behind the second push button and simple association between devices would have been a simpler solution for this problem. But, what ever works is a good solution, I guess

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[Franz 1]

Yes... I was already using the UBS to turn on/off 3 lights with the same momentary switch:

1 click ON/OFF light 1,

2 clicks ON/OFF light 2,

3 clicks ON/OFF light 3...  all the lights are in the kitchen

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so I used the other UBS input to remotely control the dimmer of the garden light.

 

Futhermore... being the door of the house in the kitchen, when I go away from home,

with the same momentary switch:

holding down -> turn OFF all the lights in the house.

[Franz 1]

Ok, I you had a Fibaro binarry sensor lying around? Otherwise, I think just a switch / simmer behind the second push button and simple association between devices would have been a simpler solution for this problem. But, what ever works is a good solution, I guess

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Well... I''m back to say thank you for your comment.

Also if, as you have seen by my previous answer, I had a free UBS input, I didn't know about the possibility that you have suggested.

Just now I have found this link, that I think describes what you was referring to:

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Thank you!

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I use them to monitor the PIRs and switches in my alarm system. 8 zones needs 4 Universal sensors plus one to monitor the alarm box.