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Official Google Home Support for HC2


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Hi Community,

 

I know that there are other topics regarding my question. But all of them propose to use HA-Bridge which is not what I want to do.

 

My question is if there are plans to officially support Google Home. Means if Fibaro is implementing a google action so you can control HC2 devices through Google Home (or assistant on a phone/tablet).

 

Thanks in advance

Tobias

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@I.Srodka,

 

I have tried rebooting several times over the past 12 hours however I will try again now and report back

 

 

11 minutes ago, sirKitKat said:

I fear I can't help you any further then :/

 

Thanks for trying 

 

 

@I.Srodka,

 

After reboot I still have the same error.

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Guys, anyways, even if you get it to work its not very usefull.

You will hear A LOT OF "Which light", "Which device", "Which door or window"...

Example:

-Turn ON the LED (LED is a name of a device in my system) 

-Which device?

-LED

- Which device?

... and it goes on and on

 

Sometimes it simply does the command, sometimes it goes to the "Which device" round.

 

Another example :

-Open the window (window is a name of a blind)

-which device...

 

As well, the "talk to fibaro" takes just too long. First, the google home says - Okay. Here's Fibaro. Then Fibaro says - Start controling your home. this is 5 seconds noone ever gives you back every time you want to control anything :D and I just tested for a few times and I am sick of it already :D For now I stay with alexa, she is deaf sometimes, but for now better than this one.

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15 minutes ago, HomeSystem.sk said:

Guys, anyways, even if you get it to work its not very usefull.

You will hear A LOT OF "Which light", "Which device", "Which door or window"...

Example:

-Turn ON the LED (LED is a name of a device in my system) 

-Which device?

-LED

- Which device?

... and it goes on and on

 

Sometimes it simply does the command, sometimes it goes to the "Which device" round.

 

Another example :

-Open the window (window is a name of a blind)

-which device...

 

As well, the "talk to fibaro" takes just too long. First, the google home says - Okay. Here's Fibaro. Then Fibaro says - Start controling your home. this is 5 seconds noone ever gives you back every time you want to control anything :D and I just tested for a few times and I am sick of it already :D For now I stay with alexa, she is deaf sometimes, but for now better than this one.

 

Now you have spoiled the surprise :roll:.

 

Im glad I still have HA Bridge linked...

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Google Home works differently to Alexa. 

In Alexa, you can work on the local network - often using uPnP - so there's nothing going off the local Wifi.

 

In GH, the device goes out to the internet, then seems to come back through the fibaro  over the internet - hence the reason that we have to tie the authentication.  So the end result feels slow - similar to controlling the Fibaro from outside the home over 4g.

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Google Home can be fast, depends on how its implemented...I know my solution has a delay of ~2 seconds, even after its gone across the internet and back again.

 

Internet based authentication and service control is the way everyone is going unfortunately, I agree local point to point is much faster where possible.

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There's some discussion on using the API for Google Home, but having the target system as a local url. 

I will look at this option in a week or so when I get some spare time.

38 minutes ago, skarotech said:

Google Home can be fast, depends on how its implemented...I know my solution has a delay of ~2 seconds, even after its gone across the internet and back again.

 

Internet based authentication and service control is the way everyone is going unfortunately, I agree local point to point is much faster where possible.

 

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@ianbren i’d Like to know more about this, do you have a link that you can share on this discussion/concept ?

 

From what I have investigated, its all based around OAUTH and tokens providing an endpoint to their services.

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12 hours ago, skarotech said:

@ianbren i’d Like to know more about this, do you have a link that you can share on this discussion/concept ?

 

From what I have investigated, its all based around OAUTH and tokens providing an endpoint to their services.

 

Something looking like this 

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 and this 

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The preview URL doesn't need to be in the cloud or open with OAuth - so in theory it could be a URL on your wifi.   I'd use a small WIFI device (an ESP8266 programmed with Arduino) to handle the request into Fibaro.

 

I did a similar thing with IFTTT (and AWS) and it works, but it's got multiple hops across the internet, so it takes a few more seconds than feels normal.  Check my other posts to see the source code.

 

 

 

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Any update on this, I have just purchased a google mini and trying to link fibaro

 

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anyone in australia get any further?  I still get the dependant service error, but interesting enough looks like its implemented now according to : 

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@Robert Folbigg,

 

What phone do you have?

 

7 hours ago, Robert Folbigg said:

No still not working in Australia..... 

Which region do you set when you configure your Google Home?

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i bought all my google home's (4) in the US while visiting family and when i returned to italy, where they are all being used, i haven't ran into any issues.  i even got the warning in the home assistant app stating they may not work because im using them in an unsupported country, i haven't had issues using them with FIbaro or anything else...   

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1 hour ago, I.Srodka said:

@Robert Folbigg,

 

What phone do you have?

 

Which region do you set when you configure your Google Home?

 @I.Srodka,

 

iPhone 7 plus, Australia 

 

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I must admit I've tested it only on *pure* English (English US). 

 

If you could be so kind and test it out on both Google Home US and iPhone (English). However, if you don't have time I will check it tomorrow ; ) so that we could rule out potential issues. If this is something with regional settings I can bring up this issue.

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3 minutes ago, I.Srodka said:

I must admit I've tested it only on *pure* English (English US). 

 

If you could be so kind and test it out on both Google Home US and iPhone (English). However, if you don't have time I will check it tomorrow ; ) so that we could rule out potential issues. If this is something with regional settings I can bring up this issue.

 

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