Fakro Z-wave windows and shutters info

[barend121 13]

Hi!

 

Recently I bought two fakro Z-wave windows for our masterbedroom from this type: FTU-V U3 FSC.  Together with zwave enabled Fakro shutters ARF. 

 

The installation was placed by a local installation company and even Fibaro support was provided.   Adding the devices was a bit pain, it took quit long to include into the homecenter and the controller was not straight foreward (for me). A lot of patience  was needed, at the end it all worked. It is also provided with a Fakro controller with 5 groups.  Thanks Joeri!

 

The shutters are powered by the windows, but only when the window are closed. if the windows are opened you can't control the shutters.   Fibaro will mark the shutters dead and only waking up them manually enables them again.  The option poll dead devices gives the network to much traffic and everything slows down (activating lights when activating motion detection). I ended up with both these settings disabled:

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The lack of power on the shutters leaves me with some interesting scripts needed to get most out of it.  

 

I used four basic scenes:

1. windows and shutters closed

2. windows closed, shutter open

3. windows open shutters closed

4. windows and shutters open

 

I saved myself a lot of trouble by integrating the current position of the window (not always accurate when the windows closed by itself due to rain).

 

Script 1: 

--close left en right window
--left 
fibaro:debug('close windows ')
fibaro:call(409, "close");
--right window
    fibaro:call(415, "close");

--wait 2 minutes
fibaro:debug('wacht 2 minuten')
fibaro:sleep(130000)

--sluit de twee shutters
--shutter links
    fibaro:call(411, "close");
--shutter rechts
    fibaro:call(413, "close");
fibaro:debug('klaar met shutters sluiten')

 

The trick is to give the windows open/close command and wait for 2 minutes (look at video), after 2 minutes close the shutters.

WIndows open shutter closed will:

1. close windows

2. wait 2 minutes

3. open shutters

4. wait 2 minutes

5. open windows 

 

My setup:

Every evening at 22:30 if the windows are open, script 3 will run. When at 22:30 the windows are closed script 1 will run. 

On mo-friday at 7:00 if the windows are open script 4 will run, when the windows are closed script 2 will fire. 

 

The windows open/close position are not set in a value, it is open or closed 0 or 100%.  I am trying to use the "stop" command after a few seconds of the  "open" command. This should give me a possible usable position of opening the windows.  The shutters are set to a value (of just open/close). 

 

I am also have to write some scripts when the CO2 value is to high in the bedroom to open the window, but without freezing my bud off in the winter.  Or always open with some temp range. Will be a bit complex. 

 

The masterbedroom looks like this:

 

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The windows are now closed (due to rain on the sensors (would be nice if this is readable in the device).  shutters are open. 

 

How it really looks:

 

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 the controller for manual overide of the windows/shutters!

At the controller:

group 3 is channel 1 left up/down/stop buttons, added to the windows

group 4 is channel 1 right up/down/stop buttons, added to the shutters

group 5 is channel 2 left up/down is connected to dimmer light in masterbedroom

group 6 is channel 2 right up/down is connected to dimmer light at closet 

 

When opening and closing the windows/shutters it looks and sounds like this (it is slow!):

 

 

 

Work to do:

1. Possible to open the window for x % using wait and LUA 

2. make it winter proof, open en close using temp settings

3. make it CO2 aware open en close based on CO2 values

4. make a house ventilate script, opening windows and enable fans for air ventilation

 

Would be nice if:

1. Fibaro could read the "rain" sensor of the windows

2. the windows are marked as windows instead of shutters

3. the windows are possible to open at % instead of 0 or 100%

4. the windows report back there current state 

5. Fibaro wakes the device up when power is back on the shutter

6. It was faster (but not a biggy).  

 

Costs: these two windows with shutters including installation was roughly 3500-4000 euro, it took 1.5 days to install (labor, cutting out roof parts). 

 

Happy with this setup and gives a lot of light in the masterbedroom, Velux was without Z-wave/IP not an option! the automatically close windows when raining is in Holland perfect and works very well (although it does not report it "new" closed  position back to fibaro when it closes on it's own. 

 

Hope this will help other users to make a decision, I could not find a lot of information in the internet or real user stories.

 

 

[akatar 208]

the problem is...

- i have a 220 volt fakro window opener and also this one only understands open/close and stop

so open for 30% is: open, wait 20 seconds then stop

so i guess youre fakro openers do the same

 

- what the fakro openers don't report, the zwave controller can't show or do something with this

and i think it's stupid that the shutters lose power when the window is open, or they should be working as battery operated devices, then a zwave controller knows that it can lose communication.

 

what you can do:

- try a different controller (homeseer or domoica) to check if this works better

or

- sent fakro a mail with the question what the openers and shutters report