My First Scene, after sunset - motiondetector (HC3, Block) not working

[Kouzco 4]

I'm setting up my first scene, it's simple so far, just trying to get the basics to work, but no luck.

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All i want so far is the light to light up if i walk into the bathroom after sunset. But i can't ge tit right.

If i remove the sunrise/sunset trigger the light goes on. So i know it's not an issue with the detector.

what am I doing wrong here?

 

The only thing I can think of is that the scene will now only activate if its 1 minute after sunset, 1 minute before sunerise and i trigger the motion at the same time. which i ofc impossible. 

If this is the case, how to I get a scene to trigger while dark outside?

 

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Edited March 31, 2020 by Kouzco

[okidoki 14]

Why not remove the sunset/sunset condition and measure the lux level? If motion and luxvalue< threshold then turn lights on.? its the amount of luxe that counts (then it also works on dark days)

[Kouzco 4]

33 minutes ago, okidoki said:

Why not remove the sunset/sunset condition and measure the lux level? If motion and luxvalue< threshold then turn lights on.? its the amount of luxe that counts (then it also works on dark days)

And thats why I'm a n00b!

Thanks!

 

Next challange is to get it to turn off again

 

I figure i have to make a scene for that as well... 

I add a block for the motion detector, but there is not an option alowing me to add a function after no breaches after certain time limit... hm...

[theplayernll 0]

You can add two things.

 

Like a timer

 

turn off mirror light under after 60 seconds.

 

or you can work with the state of the motionsensor (if state is safe then turn mirror light under off)

 

[SmartHomeEddy 814]

Maybe a challenge for now,  but there is a great lua script for lights with motion and or lux detection. The script has a timer function, so in your case, as long as you are in the bathroom, the light stays on if it is dark enough. 
 

 

[Kouzco 4]

On 5/1/2020 at 11:27 AM, theplayernll said:

You can add two things.

 

Like a timer

 

turn off mirror light under after 60 seconds.

 

or you can work with the state of the motionsensor (if state is safe then turn mirror light under off)

 

 

Works! (I think)...

Things became much easier when I noticed the "delay" tab

 

On 5/1/2020 at 12:37 PM, SmartHomeEddy said:

Maybe a challenge for now,  but there is a great lua script for lights with motion and or lux detection. The script has a timer function, so in your case, as long as you are in the bathroom, the light stays on if it is dark enough. 
 

 

LUA is way beyond me... any tips for a LUA - n00b guide?

[SmartHomeEddy 814]

14 minutes ago, Kouzco said:

 

LUA is way beyond me... any tips for a LUA - n00b guide?

 

i am not a Lua hero myself ? I haven’t seen a lua for dummies document, but maybe that is not necessary. Because there are great examples on this forum. 

 

I can copy and paste and just by looking at the code, I understand the logic. 
 

in this case the lua code has two parts, declarations and actions. 
 

declarions

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Actions

 

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in this code 254 is my motion sensor, 256 is my lux sensor and 251 is the light switch. You have to fill in the ID’s of your setup. 

 

“value = 3” represents the lux value. So in this code <= 3 lux (and motion) will turn on the light. You can experiment with this value, which lux value suites you the best in your setup. 
 

“local maxTime = 1*60” represens the time the light stays on, in this case 60 seconds (and longer if there is still motion, motion resets the timer). 

 

if you change them in your values, you have your first lua script running! ?

 

 

 

[Kouzco 4]

And I'm back.

 

Things are not working pitch perfect, and I can't really see why.

 

The scene runs ok, but it does not restart until the countdown is complete.

 

They way the values are put in now:

- If I walk into the room the light will go on, but even if i stay in the room the light will turn off after 10 sec.

To get the light up and running again I have to exit the room, wait 10 sek and enter again... there has to be 10 sec without breach for the scene to restart..

 

How can i get it to restart for every motion it detects?

 

edit: I have allowed the scene to restart when creatning

 

 

 

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Edited May 3, 2020 by Kouzco

[SmartHomeEddy 814]

That is a problem with the block scenes. There is no reset of the timer function. The lua scene solves the problem. 

Edited May 3, 2020 by SmartHomeEddy

[Kouzco 4]

Right... So block scenes in HC3 is so far pretty much hopeless?

This is just directly translated from the block scene

 

Declarations

 

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{

  conditions = { {

      id = 138,

      isTrigger = false,

      operator = "<=",

      property = "value",

      type = "device",

      value = 150

    }, {

      id = 136,

      isTrigger = true,

      operator = "==",

      property = "value",

      type = "device",

      value = true

    }, {

      conditions = { {

          isTrigger = false,

          operator = "match>=",

          property = "cron",

          type = "date",

          value = { "00", "11", "*", "*", "*", "*" }

        }, {

          isTrigger = false,

          operator = "match<",

          property = "cron",

          type = "date",

          value = { "00", "08", "*", "*", "*", "*" }

        } },

      operator = "any"

    } },

  operator = "all"

}

Actions

 

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fibaro.call(134, 'turnOn')

fibaro.setTimeout(10000, function()

fibaro.call(134, 'turnOff')

end)

 

 

Is there a simple way, and where does one add this part that you have ? (I assume this is what resets it)

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[SmartHomeEddy 814]

If you replace the code in the action side with “my” lua code and replace the two id”s (“light” with 134 and “motion1” with 136) I think it should work. 
 

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Edited May 3, 2020 by SmartHomeEddy

[Kouzco 4]

4 hours ago, SmartHomeEddy said:

If you replace the code in the action side with “my” lua code and replace the two id”s (“light” with 134 and “motion1” with 136) I think it should work. 
 

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I really appreciate you doing this ?

 

 

I'll try it tomorrow and report back.

thanks!

 

 

[Kouzco 4]

On 5/4/2020 at 12:09 AM, Kouzco said:

I really appreciate you doing this ?

 

 

I'll try it tomorrow and report back.

thanks!

 

 

Reporting back!

 

Working!

thanks a million!

[SmartHomeEddy 814]

Your first Lua scene, a virtual celebration! ???

 

The world is yours ?

[Kouzco 4]

Hi!

 

Again, your LUA is working as it should, so thank you very much.

 

If I may, I have a suggestion.

If one enters the room and the light turns on automatically and the person decides to turn the rest of the lights in the room on, the lights on the LUA scene will still turn it selv off after 10 minutes of no activity. Even if the rest of the lights are on.

 

Is there a way to cancel out the scene if the other lights are turned on?

 

[okidoki 14]

10 minutes ago, Kouzco said:

Hi!

 

Again, your LUA is working as it should, so thank you very much.

 

If I may, I have a suggestion.

If one enters the room and the light turns on automatically and the person decides to turn the rest of the lights in the room on, the lights on the LUA scene will still turn it selv off after 10 minutes of no activity. Even if the rest of the lights are on.

 

Is there a way to cancel out the scene if the other lights are turned on?

 

Hi, There are many options, depends on  your situation. Are the other lights normal lights or are they also controlled via zwave?

If so, then you can call the status of the other lights. If lights are on, you skip the turnoff.

if not, than it is more difficult, you could try to measure the amount of lux by the motion sensor but my guess is that this is not so robust due to daylight changes.

[Kouzco 4]

On 6/4/2020 at 9:12 PM, okidoki said:

Hi, There are many options, depends on  your situation. Are the other lights normal lights or are they also controlled via zwave?

If so, then you can call the status of the other lights. If lights are on, you skip the turnoff.

if not, than it is more difficult, you could try to measure the amount of lux by the motion sensor but my guess is that this is not so robust due to daylight changes.

 

I have 2 other lights controller by z-wave. 1 switch and 1 dimmer. Checkin status on the switch  would be perfect.

 

Allthough I have no idea what or where to implement it into the code. 

Any of you have the chance to help me with this one? The switch that it can check staus agaist is called 133. So basically if status is '"on"... cancel the scene.. does that work?

 

Thanks

K

[okidoki 14]

44 minutes ago, Kouzco said:

 

I have 2 other lights controller by z-wave. 1 switch and 1 dimmer. Checkin status on the switch  would be perfect.

 

Allthough I have no idea what or where to implement it into the code. 

Any of you have the chance to help me with this one? The switch that it can check staus agaist is called 133. So basically if status is '"on"... cancel the scene.. does that work?

 

 

 

With :

 

if fibaro.getValue(lightid,"state") == true

you can check if your other light (Lightid=133) is on (then it returns true) and then skip the turnof section of your light scene. 

this is just one solution.

 

What is did: i made a few simple scenes in which i plyed with these calls to that i was sure that i understood the code and that small piees function. Then you combine the pieces togeter till you have the scene working. Modifying a larger scene can be difficult if it doesn't work and you lack experience. Play with small pieses like turn lamp on, turn of. call status etc etc.

 

 

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Edited June 10, 2020 by okidoki

[SmartHomeEddy 814]

This is the action code: 

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In this part of the action code: 

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The code checks if there (still) is motion and if so, it resets the timer to zero and the light won’t go off. If you extend that part of the code with a check if the other light is on

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the timer resets as long as that other light is still on.

 

(local  otherlightID = 131 has to be added above with the other id’s) 

 

I think that should do the job? 

 

 

 

Edited June 11, 2020 by SmartHomeEddy

[Kouzco 4]

On 6/11/2020 at 11:49 AM, SmartHomeEddy said:

This is the action code: 

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In this part of the action code: 

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The code checks if there (still) is motion and if so, it resets the timer to zero and the light won’t go off. If you extend that part of the code with a check if the other light is on

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the timer resets as long as that other light is still on.

 

(local  otherlightID = 131 has to be added above with the other id’s) 

 

I think that should do the job? 

 

 

 

Thanks, I'll try this as soon as possible.

Btw, do you mean put that new line in together in the same line or 1 line down?

[SmartHomeEddy 814]

1 hour ago, Kouzco said:

Btw, do you mean put that new line in together in the same line or 1 line down?

replace the if-statement “if fibaro.getValue(motion1,"value")” 

 

With this if-statement: 

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And add  below  “local motion1 = 254”

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I hope it works, lets see