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Features postponed after 2020


jwi

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On Friday I ordered an HC3. More out of curiosity. Yesterday I read that

Fibaro postponed some features until 2021.
It is about this:
▪ ZigBee devices support
▪ Bluetooth Low Energy devices support
▪ Energy management panel
▪ Temperature charts panel
▪ Energy consumption charts panel
▪ Gateway connection with Home Center 2 / Lite

Since I have known Fibaro for years, I am not surprised, but if I had known that on Friday, I would not have ordered it.

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1 hour ago, A.Socha said:

We will made (finish) connecting Hc3 with Hc3 in this year, we are saying about hc3 with Hc2/HCL is postponed

It was my understanding thank you very much @A.Socha for the clarification for that point and for all others aswell !

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2 hours ago, Rover said:

If the use of HC3 as gateway to HC2 was possible, then I would buy a HC3 and had used al features of HC3 of interest moving scenes and VD's one by one from HC2 to HC3.

This will function comfortable if you had the possibility to move devices from HC2 to HC3 one by one without exclude/include.


same with me, moving and migrating piece by piece... large house, 150+ devices, many many scenes... Big Bang migration is probably not possible without Wife complaining...

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9 hours ago, A.Socha said:

We will made (finish) connecting Hc3 with Hc3 in this year, we are saying about hc3 with Hc2/HCL is postponed

 

ad 1 is on our roadmap

ad 2 not understood, it work now  I tested on safari, chrome, firefox

ad 3 it is on roadmap  in this year

ad 4 that too is on our roadmap

 

@okidoki have you seen manual?

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yes I have. Thank you!

 

These manuals help a lot, but if you want to make some more 'complex' scenes (nested IfthenElses, do whiles) you are forced to LUA imo.

 

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9 hours ago, A.Socha said:
21 hours ago, petrkl12 said:

 

2. same design of right panel and preview (QA) in different browsers

 

 

ad 2 not understood, it work now  I tested on safari, chrome, firefox

 

 

@A.Socha

 

here is problem with QA design in different browsers:

 

Chrome:

Preview/Developing mode is fully OK

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Chrome - right panel - Why there is differences with preview mode and a lot of space in right part, not possible to read text in buttons (only ...)

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Firefox - Preview/Developing mode is almost OK - only problems with some emojis with numbers inside

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Firefox - Right panel  is almost OK - only problems with some emojis with numbers inside

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5 hours ago, petrkl12 said:

Firefox - Right panel  is almost OK - only problems with some emojis with numbers inside

Hi @petrkl12, those emojis are not supported by Windows...

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22 hours ago, A.Socha said:

We can wrote for example driver for zigbee and ble to send frames by LUA but i can bet it is not that you wanted?

the same popular "spherical" gateaway controller can pass the raw data from ZWave /ZigBee protocol to plugins (in our situation QA) and it's good and nice solution as for me.

We can finally start to support the some specific devices what Fibaro can't implement support more than 3y, for example. 

but it's up to you. Fibaro always thinking not so as some forum users :) 

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@A.Socha Are there any plans to get the HC3 working with the old ipad app, or at least update the new one to actually fit the screen correctly and to allow a landscape mode?

 

 I am surprised no one else is mentioning this, what do you all use to operate your systems remotely throughout your house?

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4 hours ago, Produno said:

what do you all use to operate your systems remotely throughout your house?

Node red  dashboard UI as for me

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@A.Socha and here is my "wishlist" , i know some topics already on your to-do:

 

  • Fix 403 for scene execution (external call) by non-admin users -> fixed
     
  • UDP Support:
    - add require('net.UDPSocket') to QA
    -> done

     
  • Websocket Support:
    - add require('net.WebSocketClient') to QA 
    - add require('net.WebSocketClientTls') to QA
    -> done

     
  • JsonRpcOverWebsocket Support:
    - add require('common/JsonRpcOverWebsocket') to QA
    -> part of websocks, done

     
  • Add Event Trigger Support (/assets/docs/plugins.json) to LUA scenes
    - accessControlEvent
    - VideoGateIncomingCallEvent
    - sceneActivationEvent (haven't checked with latest version, still not there?)

     
  • Add 433/868 raw rx/tx, e.g. as simple plugin

 

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@A.Sochaaes-128-cbc please! I can't start broadlink for all ny air conditioner

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First thank you for your feedback, some of your wishes are on my roadmap.

However, the next period will focus on HC3 user panels (scenes, climate etc)

Better support for Nice devices, it will have a huge impact on the Fibaro System elements, where we will also improve or add long promised options. A perfect example of this will be the new history panel where, apart from device status reports, there will also be action support or additional data (when we will be able to determine whether it was launched: from the scene or maybe by the user).
There is a really big update in preparation for voice control, especially for HC3 users, where the integration will use new dedicated APIs, new types of devices, which will translate into greater speed and control capabilities)

 

 

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@A.Socha  For me, support zigbee is not so important because  Im using zigbee2mqtt. It supports lots of devices so I developed z2m QA.

Im very curious about Lua Encryption.

Is there any plan for encrypt QA?

Encrypt with devices information(e.g. HC3-000000) and decrypt on specific HC3 device.

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16 godzin temu, rangee napisał:

@A.Socha  For me, support zigbee is not so important because  Im using zigbee2mqtt. It supports lots of devices so I developed z2m QA.

Im very curious about Lua Encryption.

Is there any plan for encrypt QA?

Encrypt with devices information(e.g. HC3-000000) and decrypt on specific HC3 device.

yes there is, like integration with marketplace

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11 minutes ago, A.Socha said:

yes there is, like integration with marketplace

oh really?

So, is that only for marketplace quick app? or will support lua functions?

 

I mean... Encrypt support not only on marketplaceQA but also private QA.

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for example...

 

if fibaro.validkey(key) then  

fibaro.decrypt([[encrypted codeblock

quickapp:oninit()

]])

end

 

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both

Scenario 1 installer install QA and user can only control it ( don't have access to view or change code, to change it (will can only change variables)  or to export)

Scenario 2 User buy or install free QA by marketplace but you dont have access to code, or export

Scenario 3 like today w/o restriction

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5 minutes ago, A.Socha said:

both

Scenario 1 installer install QA and user can only control it ( don't have access to view or change code, to change it (will can only change variables)  or to export)

Scenario 2 User buy or install free QA by marketplace but you dont have access to code, or export

Scenario 3 like today w/o restriction

Sounds great! :)

1. installer means fibaro authorized installer?

If yes,  how to do that?

2. Buy means.. like (android playstore or apple market)? 

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ad 1) no, that can be everyone who will check in option encrypt on import QA

ad 2) still under discusion - right now more like android

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2 minutes ago, A.Socha said:

ad 1) no, that can be everyone who will check in option encrypt on import QA

ad 2) still under discusion - right now more like android

wow... THX ?

Its very cool!

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13 minutes ago, A.Socha said:

ad 1) no, that can be everyone who will check in option encrypt on import QA

ad 2) still under discusion - right now more like android

2 more questions plz!

 

Is there any plan...

enable advanced tab on child devices?

enable ui on child devices?

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43 minutes ago, A.Socha said:

So, is that only for marketplace quick app? or will support lua functions?

 

I mean... Encrypt support not only on marketplaceQA but also private QA.

---

for example...

 

if fibaro.validkey(key) then  

fibaro.decrypt([[encrypted codeblock

quickapp:oninit()

]])

end

 

 

both

Scenario 1 installer install QA and user can only control it ( don't have access to view or change code, to change it (will can only change variables)  or to export)

Scenario 2 User buy or install free QA by marketplace but you dont have access to code, or export

Scenario 3 like today w/o restriction

 

that's cool! The company i work for just started QA store, and honestly i was looking for this kind of protection.

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