network - home id

[robmac 173]

Just interested what home ID people set when they configured their HC2.

How many changed the value?

[UrSv 6]

Where do you set it?

[robmac 173]

Now that is an interesting point. On older versions of the software it was an edit box in the interface. I have not reset my z-wave for a long time or used recovery so not sure it is still possible to set or if it now comes configured with value and not user changeable.

[chaicka 195]

Just interested what home ID people set when they configured their HC2.

How many changed the value?

 

I did, despite not knowing what the purpose/function this ID is for.

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Assuming you are referring to the one in the 'Location' page, right?

[robmac 173]

I did, despite not knowing what the purpose/function this ID is for.

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Assuming you are referring to the one in the 'Location' page, right?

Is that where it is now. Just searched the latest manual and it tells you why it matters but not where it can be set or how it is set if not.

[petergebruers 1,268]

w00t!

There's a new guide, v1.06 and nobody told me?

No wonder I never understand anything:

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[robmac 173]

w00t!

There's a new guide, v1.06 and nobody told me?

No wonder I never understand anything:

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It is much improved and almost complete.

[petergebruers 1,268]

Thank you, I'll read it, I'm very old school, I like manuals.

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[UrSv 6]

OK, so that is what we are talking about. I haven't found anywhere to set it in my HC2.

 

Why would you want to change it? In case a neighbour uses the same ID?

[robmac 173]

OK, so that is what we are talking about. I haven't found anywhere to set it in my HC2.

Why would you want to change it? In case a neighbour uses the same ID?[/quot

OK, so that is what we are talking about. I haven't found anywhere to set it in my HC2.

Why would you want to change it? In case a neighbour uses the same ID?

That would be a reason to change it or if you run multiple networks that you want to be independent you would also need unique. Say you needed 300 nodes so split into two networks.

It is only 4 bytes so only 2^32 unique values. In a big city a clash is not that unlikely so reading about all the ghosts in London it does make you think.

[robmac 173]

It just should not happen. The chances are so slim the only way it could is if a device has a bad implementation. Would not have to be HC2 issue though.

[j.nowacki 5]

Are you talking about Home number in localization or the home id? Home ID is identification number assigned to Z-wave network, no way to influence it. Home number however is leftover from previous versions, I will contact our developers to determine is it meant to be used in the future, if no we will disable that option, sorry for all the confusion.

[chaicka 195]

Are you talking about Home number in localization or the home id? Home ID is identification number assigned to Z-wave network, no way to influence it. Home number however is leftover from previous versions, I will contact our developers to determine is it meant to be used in the future, if no we will disable that option, sorry for all the confusion.

 

Glad to hear you are picking this conversation up. Good to know what is the 'Home Number' used for.

 

I think the idea spur up because some of the audience may now be exploring option to run parallel z-wave network, given how unstable and unreliable Fibaro system has been. (No offence intended. Just being plain honest of the sentiments on the ground).

[j.nowacki 5]

chaicka, thank you for the input, such need for redundancy was the reason we are picked up work on secondary controller feature, network that run in parallel can not assure operation of each others elements.

[chaicka 195]

chaicka, thank you for the input, such need for redundancy was the reason we are picked up work on secondary controller feature, network that run in parallel can not assure operation of each others elements.

 

Parallel does not equate to redundancy in the sense of business continuity planning. For real-world redundancy or fault-tolerance, it is a common practice not to bet everything on a single maker.

 

Parallel can be in the form of running partial of the z-wave network on maker A while another partial of the z-wave network on maker B. In a typical real-world setup of a residential place, most often there are multiple circuits for lights within a room. The concept here is to run some of the lights for the room under z-wave network A while the remaining lights for the same room run under z-wave network B. If z-wave network A is unreliable due to its controller, at least z-wave network B can continue to function without crippling the entire room's lighting.

[robmac 173]

Are you talking about Home number in localization or the home id? Home ID is identification number assigned to Z-wave network, no way to influence it. Home number however is leftover from previous versions, I will contact our developers to determine is it meant to be used in the future, if no we will disable that option, sorry for all the confusion.

So when a controller acts as secondary it has to ignore the network id on the controller chip and use the one supplied by the primary. So the network id is not hard coded but proposed by the controller chip.

I give up. Need a network sniffer to see what is really going on.