About z-wave repeater

[shahbaz 2]

Which is the best z-wave repeater (range extender) that can be used .? 

[Joacim 11]

Any Z wave+ wired device? Z wave plus have a slightly better tranciever than standard z wave but any z wave wired device will do.

[petergebruers 1,268]

I agree with Joacim. But to avoid disappointment, could you describe your needs in more detail? Z-Wave is a mesh network, and it has a limited number of hops. Also, it has only one channel (compared to... well... "many" in WiFi).

[shahbaz 2]

Fibaro sensors doesn`t show enough range when connected with HCL. It doesn`t give even 10m. Actually i want to extend the range of my sensors. Which are the effective range extenders.?? 

[petergebruers 1,268]

All *powered* modules act as repeaters. How many do you have? How far is your sensor from the nearest module? Repeaters are like modules, but without another useful function. If you put a module or a repeater halfway, that will probably solve your problem. That 10 m is probably straight line, but also going through walls?

[shahbaz 2]

No. when there is any obstruction , i don`t get 8m even . Among the 230v input devices,which device has got the better repeater quality. Please specify

[Joacim 11]

What do you mean by "Fibaro sensors doesn`t show enough range" 10m should not be a problem for any device. Can you give an example of what kind of device you are trying to connect and what the result/error code is or other info?

[1152 33]

Sound like you have a trying signal environment. You may be better served if you can improve it in the first place.

[petergebruers 1,268]

What do you mean by "Fibaro sensors doesn`t show enough range" 10m should not be a problem for any device. Can you give an example of what kind of device you are trying to connect and what the result/error code is or other info?

 

 

Sound like you have a trying signal environment. You may be better served if you can improve it in the first place.

I can get 10 m indoor, but not much more than that. I may have lots of (digital) noise... I don't have a device to test that. But it might be interesting to take the device outdoor, see what you get then. I can get 15 m outdoor. I'm in a city, I can detect 20 wireless networks. Not that these would interfere with Z-Wave, but it gives an idea of the number digital and possibly noisy device.

Also, it is possible the problem is on the HC2 side. Try to move it. Keep it 1/2 meter from a wall and other devices. I've tried 3 places in the house. Two give a more "overall" performance. One allows me to reach the garden shed (direct connection, that is...).

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Noise can come from older devices on the same band... a baby monitor, wireless headphone or cordless phone for example. Maybe the device is next door...

The best repeating devices are Z-Wave plus, like FGD-212 (aka dimmer 2), it has, in practice, 20 % - 30 % better range than the previous generation. Although Z-Wave has a very tight spec, I'd buy only recent (last 2-3 years) devices. Not because of the radio, but because of the firmware and compatibly.

@shahbaz, would you mind answering my other questions in my other post? Without it, I still don't get a picture of your network.

[petergebruers 1,268]

If you want to test routing and range in your network, there is one diagnostic tool and you may not realize you have it... This explanation is in the documentation of the wall plug. But it also exists in the smoke sensor and motion sensor. You can use it to probe the network:

To test the range:

1) Insert Plug into a mains socket,

2) Press and hold the B button for 10-15 seconds until the LED ring glows violet,

3) Release the B button,

4) Press the B button briefly.

5) LED ring signals Z-Wave network range - see below for signaling modes description.

6) To exit range testing mode press the B button briefly. Plugs relay will not change its status.

Z-Wave network range signaling modes:

LED ring pulsing green - Wall Plug tries to establish direct connection with the main controller. If direct connection cannot be established, Plug will try routing connection with the main controller which will be signaled by LED ring pulsing yellow.

LED ring glowing green - Wall Plug managed to establish a direct connection with the main controller.

LED ring pulsing yellow - Wall Plug is trying to establish routed connection with the main cotroller, via other Z-Wave devices acting as signal repeaters.

LED ring glowing yellow - Wall Plug managed to establish routed connection with the main controller. After 2 seconds the Plug will try again to establish a direct connection with the main controller, which will be signaled by LED ring pulsing green.

LED ring pulsing violet - Wall Plug is located outside the Z-Wave network's range or the network is busy. Ultimately, failure to connect with the main controller will be signalled by LED ring pulsing red. After 2 seconds the Plug will again try to establish a direct connection with the main controller which will be signaled by LED ring blinking green.

[shahbaz 2]

@petergebruers :

 

I mean when I tried to connect motion sensor with the home centre lite, I wasn`t able to connect it within a range of 10m even . But there was a wooden door in between . Even the sensor which worked once within a certain range doesn`t work another time. I am facing several such problems. Also the repeaters which I have tried so far didn`t satisfy my needs. I need to know whether changing HCL with HC2 improves the range and also about the z-wave repeaters which produces the best result. 

[petergebruers 1,268]

I don't know if HC2 has a noticable increased range, I only have an HC2. But since you and me are talking about roughly 10 meter, I would be surprised. I have a razberry. Without soldering an antenna, it has about 1/3 the range of a HC2.

I don't have repeaters. I know the technology behind them and I monitor this forum. From that I deduce that a Z-wave plus module would perform equally well or better.

Without any other information or troubleshooting from your part I am out of ideas

So, are there any other forum members that can answer your questions:

- What is best repeater.

- What is the difference in range beween HCL and HC2.

[kariem112 3]

I have experience with the aeonlabs repeaters... They work well and really increase the range of the zwave network.

[akatar 208]

^{something as simple as neigbor infromation wil help a lot}

 

 

 

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^{Polling: Polling Interval: 20m, 20sManufacturer:
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0x1000ID:
0x1Listens:
YesVersion: 3,22 (Unknown) Firmware: 13Neighbor Count:
25Speed:
40.0KbpsNeighbors: 1, 12, 13, 15, 18, 19, 29, 30, 31, 33, 43, 45, 47, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58, 59, 61, 63, 67, 68Last Working Route: Direct (40K)Set Route: Uses Interface: z-nethuis (1)Basic Type: ROUTING SLAVE,     Generic Type: SWITCH BINARY,     Specific Type: POWER SWITCH BINARYCommand Classes:
    Supported:Basic, Switch Binary(V 1), Switch All, Configuration, Protection, Version, Manufacturer Specific, Association, Multi Instance Association, Indicator, Node Naming, Powerlevel}

[shahbaz 2]

Yes.AEOTEC smart switch acts as a good repeater. Actually , i am new to this system and wanted to learn more about these devices

[petergebruers 1,268]

Yes.AEOTEC smart switch acts as a good repeater. Actually , i am new to this system and wanted to learn more about these devices

Sounds like good news. If you still have any questions, don't be afraid to ask.

[shahbaz 2]

Please suggest some Wifi-IR device manufacturers that can be linked to work with fibaro homecenter..