Light scene - Turn on spotlights after a specific time and triggered by motion...

[Beera 0]

Hi everyone, 

Well, first of all, apologies for the never ending topic. I am really new here. And with Fibaro.

 

So, I will try to make this easy to understand what i would like to achieve. 

 

I have spotlights in the hallway on the first floor. Also, a motion sensor right above the door facing inwards to the main living room and stairs.

 

I would like the spotlights to be turned on, triggered by the motion sensor, after a specific time at the day. Like this:

 

If the time is AFTER 02.00 AM, and the Hallway motion sensor is triggered (or what ever the word is for it. Capture motion) turn on the Spotlights with 20% power.. 

 

I can only, by the block scene creation, make it that it turns on by motion on a time but not making it work after a specific time. 

 

So, was I clear?

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thank you so much! Looking forward to learn a lot from you guys.

[Sankotronic 2,370]

You are new here, like we all were in our time

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Since this is your first post, it would be nice to mention what gateway you have HCL or HC2? Do you even bother to find out what is the difference between those two?

I start to like french forum because there newbies must introduce themselves and system they have before allowed to use forum. So, do you have to do all in block scenes because you have HCL or maybe you plan to unravel full power of HC2 in the future making scenes in LUA?

 

And now about your request. It is always strange to me that people think about some exact time to do something with lights. In your example, what with this spotlights between time you go to bed and 2 o'clock in the morning? What to do with them in the morning or even better during all 24h?

 

Home automation requires planning and getting aware of our family habits. So let's first get clear what box do you have and what is your goal with home automation and then we can put you on the right track so you can be one a happy Fibaro user one day!

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[Kuba13 49]

Can we just be little more wellcoming to rokies please?

as he mentioned he did not know and probably is not quite sure where to find these things. And since i am strong proponent of "manuals are for pussies" approach myselve i can relate to attitude of unpacking the stuff and expecting it to work right away (sin't that one of more basic Z-Wave principles? that it should work out of the box?).

 

 

 

Now yes we do want to know weather you have Home Center Lite or Home Center 2 (HCL is smaller plastic box, not quite as powerfull; while HC2 is larger metalic, about size of DVD player).

and it would be immensly usefull if you could login to our home center (via website home.fibaro.com) and tell us what you see under the name of a unit it will be 4 numbers devided after first one by dot (example 4.090) potencially it might by some stroke of updating enthusiasm beta, we would like to know this aswell.

 

How are you planning on or controlling those spotlights? a Switch on each one of them or some multi-light switch? if it happens to be Fibaro FGS-212 or 222 for example (wherein the midle number means ammount of physicall switches inside the device) or some other method.

 

How far from your main controller (HC unit) is the actor (device that dose activate lights), is there annything in the way (metal coatings, and or metal objects are very bad for signal; aswell as thick soild materials).

 

After this basic run of information we can guess how will those lights work and we can start working on a scene. you could create simple block scene for starters, where you set time of a day, check every day or whenever you feel it more apropriate.

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this will enable you to run scene periodically with ease. Now on to the additionall requirements: you wanted Motion sensor to order the scene, so you mere add it behind "and"

this is assuming you will arm the PIR if not than just choose "breached" again plentifull options that you can choose from.

and we are nearing finale: you just have to add your actors that will turn lights on. this step is entirely up to you but it should not be that difficult.

 

Now bear in mind that controller must have at least relayed signal to actor(s) executing this command. there must be constant power going into all of these devices.

 

Yes relayed signal - Z-Wave can pass an order from controller to actor via at most 4 leaps over permanently powered devices (you can controll those devicess diffrently but lets not complicate it) so depending on ammount and composure of obstacles to signal you may have to put controller closer.

 

i hope this makes more sense than my usuall explenations and wellcome to Fibaro and its forums.

[Cameleon 17]

I feel your pain Beera, and also had the same problem and only now am I coming to understand the real options for interval and triggered lighting. Unfortunately it appears in block scenes you arent able to do the more complex logic of "IF X < current_time < Y AND motion THEN <some action>" (where X is start time and Y is end time). What it appears you have to do is set parameters to define if we are IN one of these times and use the match function (==) to check. So instead you have a looped scene which sets if we are in DAYTIME, NIGHTTIME, etc and then use a "IF NIGHTTIME AND motion THEN <action>"

 

I am still learning this now and have had a lot of info from Sankotronic, so sure he will be able to help you more. I am currently working on something similar, whereby our hall lights are off during the day (unless its really dark), on dim during the evening and fade up when movement, and then finally, off when we are asleep but fade up when movement. So my last situation is like yours. Maybe I can help once I have worked it out, but by then the other guys will have you covered

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[Sankotronic 2,370]

Kuba13, you are right, where are my manners? 

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So, Beera welcome to Fibaro forum!

 

As soon as you provide us with some basic info we can start helping you more. Kuba13 already gave you a good start. I still stand at my belief that home automation is not as TV set that can be unpacked and used immediately without first getting some idea of what is it and how to make it. Plenty people have problems with their box, sensors and actors due to lack of knowledge how z-wave actually operates and what are limitations of such system not to mention very poor guides that are provided by Fibaro for their products. But, even this guides are missing deeper instructions they are still good enough for newbies to start doing basic stuff just need first to find them and then to read them

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[Kuba13 49]

Kuba13, you are right, where are my manners? 

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So, Beera welcome to Fibaro forum!

 

As soon as you provide us with some basic info we can start helping you more. Kuba13 already gave you a good start. I still stand at my belief that home automation is not as TV set that can be unpacked and used immediately without first getting some idea of what is it and how to make it. Plenty people have problems with their box, sensors and actors due to lack of knowledge how z-wave actually operates and what are limitations of such system not to mention very poor guides that are provided by Fibaro for their products. But, even this guides are missing deeper instructions they are still good enough for newbies to start doing basic stuff just need first to find them and then to read them

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Thank you very kindly.

 

and meh i do insist on finding problems with devicess the hard way its more fun that way .)

[Sankotronic 2,370]

Thank you very kindly.

 

and meh i do insist on finding problems with devicess the hard way its more fun that way .)

Yes Kuba13, it is more fun for you and for me, but not for newbies, especially for those impatient ones

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[Kuba13 49]

Yes Kuba13, it is more fun for you and for me, but not for newbies, especially for those impatient ones

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Hell i still conssider myselve a rokie .)

i know juuuuust enough to give off aura of actually knowing stuff.

 

but yeah today i got schooled by customer whom wanted to controll multiple FGS via virtuall device (offcourse he found out sooner than i could have found my colleague's gude that you just get an ID from scene slap it into VD along with ID for your HCL and it just works).

 

 

Annyways i hope to see Beera reply, i like it when people make their mad ideas of smarthome work. People can be so creative sometimes that its downright funny.