Scene without Trigger?

[Lenny212 2]

I have installed automation primarily as a fire protection system. I can now close roller shutters over windows from anywhere which is great if I am at work and hear that a fire is in the area or need to leave the house in an fire emergency situation.

What I would like to do is have a single button on the Fibaro app that once pressed closes all 26 roller shutters in sequence.

There is no specific trigger, such as time of day, turning on a light, etc.

How do I achieve this? Is it via a Virtual Device? Am I better off installing a switch that is not connected to any device in particular (eg. light) and use this as the trigger?

Switch eg. 

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[Jamie mccrostie 82]

27 minutes ago, Lenny212 said:

I have installed automation primarily as a fire protection system. I can now close roller shutters over windows from anywhere which is great if I am at work and hear that a fire is in the area or need to leave the house in an fire emergency situation.

What I would like to do is have a single button on the Fibaro app that once pressed closes all 26 roller shutters in sequence.

There is no specific trigger, such as time of day, turning on a light, etc.

How do I achieve this? Is it via a Virtual Device? Am I better off installing a switch that is not connected to any device in particular (eg. light) and use this as the trigger?

Switch eg. 

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Have you got a unused s2 on a dimmer or double switch?

Or you could build a VD but the switch would be easier for you

 

[Lenny212 2]

Yes, I tried an unused s2 switch and it worked. VDs look pretty complex.I am happy to continue to use the unused s2 switch.

[kunoch 27]

@Lenny212: maybe the cookbook helps to create a VD calling a scene to do what you want. see my signature and feel free to ask if you have problems.

[oijonesy 4]

At the very simplest level unless you are writing LUA code, every scene has to begin with a trigger or IF <condition X> expression.  This is a problem if you want to set up a lighting scene for example that you just want to run the scene either from a smartphone application or from a Fibaro Switch Device. This stumped me for a while until I sussed out that by using the HCL inbuilt timer Days of Week you can trick HCL into creating a bogus IF <condition X> expression that will always be TRUE.  Here is how I did this...see attached screen shot of Block Graphic Scene.  As you can see I have set the Days of Week timer to every day at any time which basically means that condition will always be TRUE and therefore HC2 will execute the remainder of the scene setting my lighting levels.  I then simply RUN the scene I want from my smartphone application or via Double Tap on my Fibaro Switch.  Simples!

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[Lenny212 2]

Thx @kunoch and @oijonesy

[weirdinin 1]

On 2.10.2017 at 9:16 PM, oijonesy said:

At the very simplest level unless you are writing LUA code, every scene has to begin with a trigger or IF <condition X> expression.  This is a problem if you want to set up a lighting scene for example that you just want to run the scene either from a smartphone application or from a Fibaro Switch Device. This stumped me for a while until I sussed out that by using the HCL inbuilt timer Days of Week you can trick HCL into creating a bogus IF <condition X> expression that will always be TRUE.  Here is how I did this...see attached screen shot of Block Graphic Scene.  As you can see I have set the Days of Week timer to every day at any time which basically means that condition will always be TRUE and therefore HC2 will execute the remainder of the scene setting my lighting levels.  I then simply RUN the scene I want from my smartphone application or via Double Tap on my Fibaro Switch.  Simples!

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I have set a virtual device (tilaohjain) that has a button (Btnsinihamara) which change the color of all my hue lamps.  I'd like to make a scene that I could run from my tablet or smartphone. Running the scene triggers one of the buttons of the vd. But now I'm a bit confused how do I trigger the vd using graphic block interface? Is this possible if i use lua instead of graphic userface?

I tried oijonesy's suggestion but now the vd is triggered automatically all the time. Did I misunderstand something?

 

Edit. I think i got it now right. From the general settings of the scene I changed the scene to be triggered manually. Seems to work now!

 

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Edited October 9, 2017 by weirdinin

[ryvaenge 5]

Thank you 

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But this should have been done much more user friendly.

Got my system yesterday moving from Telldus Live, controlled by "remotestick" app on a wall mounted tablet. Remotestick since they are the only app I know of that supports Scenes. And scenes to me is just a button to set lamp1=on, lamp2=50%.....

Bought this system because of the user friendly GUI, but it`s just seems more complicated than it should be. If I sell my appartment I can`t give the new owner a book, "Lua Scripting For Dummies"

[Guest FredrikKarlsson]

Yes,

 

I would just switch the wall switch (the buttons on the wall) from a single paddle to a double paddle and then connect the second paddle to S2 on the FGS-213 or 223.

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The device itself has the capability to control other devices directly, and association group 4 seems to be the one for you:

 

 

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Go into the Advanced panel of your switch and click on Associations. Then select group 4 and place checkboxes at each roller shutter that you wish to control. Save the Association and then Save the device settings. 

Now, I think the "extra" paddle (the one connected to S2) should directly control the shutters too. If you need not just ON/ OFF (also level) then you should try to insert them in group 5 also, but then you need to make sure that the pushbutton is momentary I think.