Help with welcome scene

[Abacus 1]

Hi all,

I’m having trouble creating a welcome scene.

I need certain lights to come on between 8pm & 5am when I disarm the alarm.

I have created a variable that turns on at 8pm then off at 5am.

Welcome scene is supposed to trigger when variable is on and alarm is disarmed.

My issue is that this scene triggers at 8pm whenever the alarm is disarmed, I need some other condition but can’t figure out what.

[cag014 731]

When you're saying alarm, you probably mean that some sensors are armed, right?

If so just add another condition to your variable that verifies if the sensor is disarmed.

By the way you can use time based trigger instead of variable.  See below

On the left - turn on the lights at 8pm and sensor disarmed.

On the right - turn off the lights at 5am regardless alarm condition.

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Hopefully I understood correctly what do you need!? If not just follow the example and change it accordingly .

Edited November 18, 2018 by cag014

[Abacus 1]

Sorry, I should have made myself clearer.

I have a binary sensor connected to my alarm for armed/ disarmed state.

When we come home and disarm the alarm between 8pm and 5am, I would like my welcome scene to trigger.

Something like this:

once alarm = disarmed

if time >8pm and <5am

then welcome scene on

Issue I have now is the scene triggers at 8pm whenever tha alarm is disarmed, ie when we are already home. I need it to happen on the actual action of disarming. 

Hope that makes sense.

[cag014 731]

OK... so just add the binary state condition to your exist variable state...

could you post your scene ?

[Abacus 1]

Sure!

One scene turns variable on then the other one is supposed to trigger the welcome scene. 

Security disarmed breached is when an output on the alarm tiggers one of the inputs on the binary sensor.

Thanks for your help with this.

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Edited November 18, 2018 by Abacus

[cag014 731]

The "Security Disarmed" device should be disarmed not breached... I think

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[Abacus 1]

I’ll give that a go but not sure if that’s the issue.

I use the other input of the binary sensor to turn some lights off when I arm the alarm and that works fine.

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[cag014 731]

I believe it works when the sensor breached, right?

I mean when movement detected the lights turned OFF?

[Abacus 1]

I’m not using the sensors for the lights. I’m using outputs on my alarm with the binary input purely for alarm status.

alarm disarmed - breached, is when the alarm is disarmed

alarm armed - breached, is when the alarm is armed.

They work with no issues.

 

[cag014 731]

2 minutes ago, Abacus said:

alarm disarmed - breached, is when the alarm is disarmed

alarm armed - breached, is when the alarm is armed.

I both cases is breached?

As now I understand when alarm:

1. disarmed the sensor is breached

2.armed the sensor is safe

 

 

 

[akatar 208]

5 hours ago, Abacus said:

Sorry, I should have made myself clearer.

I have a binary sensor connected to my alarm for armed/ disarmed state.

When we come home and disarm the alarm between 8pm and 5am, I would like my welcome scene to trigger.

Something like this:

once alarm = disarmed

if time >8pm and <5am

then welcome scene on

Issue I have now is the scene triggers at 8pm whenever tha alarm is disarmed, ie when we are already home. I need it to happen on the actual action of disarming. 

Hope that makes sense.

 

untick the trigger box with the time trigger.

 

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Edited November 18, 2018 by akatar

[cag014 731]

3 minutes ago, akatar said:

 

untick the trigger box with the time trigger.

 

I think what @akatar means is remove the trigger condition from your "welcome_trigger" variable...

[akatar 208]

6 minutes ago, cag014 said:

I think what @akatar means is remove the trigger condition from your "welcome_trigger" variable...

 

yess, he he has 2 conditions,

1 - alarm disarmed

2 - time of day

 

i guess both are enabled in the trigger boxes, so untick the time condions box.

[Abacus 1]

Ok thanks, I will give it a go.

i won’t know if it works until tonight so I will let you know what happens.

Thanks for you help again.

[Abacus 1]

So..8 o’clock this evening sitting here watching tv and the lights came on!

I think I need to readdress this completely and start again from scratch.

How would you guys go about making this happen?

 

[cag014 731]

lights came on and alarm is armed?

[akatar 208]

@Abacus the alarmstatus must be the first line in youre blockscene

 

so:

if alarm = etc etc

 

[Abacus 1]

Thanks akatar, we weren’t home last night so I couldn’t test it.

will be home tonight at 8 so will see if it works.

 

[Abacus 1]

Pretty sure it’s all sorted now.

My issue was I needed to pulse the output on my alarm to trigger the armed/ disarmed condition.

I had them staying on to report armed state- therefore as soon as the time trigger was true the scene ran.

Thanks for all your input guys, much appreciated 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2018 by Abacus