Motion in combination with light

[Sjakie 156]

Hi Guys,

I have a motion/light sensor.

If light <7 lux and motion switch on light and switch off after 10 minutes.

Lua scene has included to reset the timer

Then light is switched on and the minimum lux level is not present anymore.>>> Light switch off after 10 min.

How to  solve this?

[10der 832]

Hi

 

actually a new forum users do search by forum and when if gtt no result do create post here

for example I know at least 5 (five) posts here about motion lights 

ok?

[Sjakie 156]

I have read them all but non is having the combination I am searching for.

Thanks

[jgab 2,642]

20 minutes ago, Sjakie said:

I have read them all but non is having the combination I am searching for.

Thanks

So you gave up on EventRunner, eh?  

Rules like these are easily expressed...

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[Sjakie 156]

Hi,thanks.

If I read this scene properly my lights still goes of if:

lights are turned on result lux is >7 this makes lights goes off

Or am I wrong?

[jgab 2,642]

2 minutes ago, Sjakie said:

Hi,thanks.

If I read this scene properly my lights still goes of if:

lights are turned on result lux is >7 this makes lights goes off

Or am I wrong?

First rule:  if motion is breached AND lux is lower than 7 THEN the lamp is turned on

which was my interpretation of your sentence "If light <7 lux and motion switch on light and switch off after 10 minutes."

actually, the second part, "switch off after 10 minutes" is baked into the second rule..

Second rule: if lamp is on AND lux is lower than 7 for 10 minutes THEN lamp is turned off

which was my interpretation of your sentence "Then light is switched on and the minimum lux level is not present anymore.>>> Light switch off after 10 min."

which also cover the case if someone switch on the light manually and the lux is lower than 7 the light is turned off after 10min.

because the rule is triggered both on lamp changing value (being switched on) or lux changing value.

 

Natural language is usually a terrible specification language. Especially if it's for home automation where triggers are asynchronous  

Better then to specify what you want in a "logic" formalism, like the rules above.

[Sjakie 156]

Okay,

Your rules reads easy.

I am just thinking to extend.

--]]

HouseAlarm----------Disarm
GastBoLichtAan-- Dark  (Means outside lux level below certain level, to cover dusk)
--]]

local    BewegingsmelderEetkamer        =    145 (motion)
local    LichtsterkteEetkamer        =    147  Lux level diningroom)
local    VerlichtingSpotKeuken        =    217  (Lamp Kitchen)

local   timer  = reset

 

rule   ("Housealarm:Dark&GastBoLichtaan:Aan")

rule   ("BewegingsmelderEetkamer:breached&LichtsterkteEetkamer <7) =>VerlichtingSpotKeuken:on")

rule  (("BewegingsmelderEetkamer:breached)  =>  reset timer)

rule   ("for00:10,VerlichtingSpotKeuken:isOn) =>VerlichtingSpotKeuken:off")

 

Lets see if my way of expressing in rules is okay

 

 

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[jgab 2,642]

12 minutes ago, Sjakie said:

Okay,

Your rules reads easy.

I am just thinking to extend.

--]]

HouseAlarm----------Disarm
GastBoLichtAan-- Dark  (Means outside lux level below certain level, to cover dusk)
--]]

local    BewegingsmelderEetkamer        =    145 (motion)
local    LichtsterkteEetkamer        =    147  Lux level diningroom)
local    VerlichtingSpotKeuken        =    217  (Lamp Kitchen)

local   timer  = reset

 

rule   ("Housealarm:Dark&GastBoLichtaan:Aan")

rule   ("BewegingsmelderEetkamer:breached&LichtsterkteEetkamer <7) =>VerlichtingSpotKeuken:on")

rule  (("BewegingsmelderEetkamer:breached)  =>  reset timer)

rule   ("for00:10,VerlichtingSpotKeuken:isOn) =>VerlichtingSpotKeuken:off")

 

Lets see if my way of expressing in rules is okay

It's still very unclear what you want to achieve.

What is HouseAlarm and GastBoLichtAan ? and why do you declare an invalid scene header with them?

And what do you try to achieve with the first rule? 

And what do you want to achieve with  "reset timer" in the third rule?

[Sjakie 156]

Hi, thanks for responding.

HouseAlarm is a variable scene only should work if state is Disarm

GastBoLichtAan is a varible what is trggering a certain level of Lux.

The invalid scene header was to add something to make it more? clear for you

first rule is scene only active if house is disarmed (to be sure it will not have an inter action with the armed scedule for the house

third rule reset timer>>if there is movement  after starting the scene it should reset the time, fa 10 min, to keep the light on

[jgab 2,642]

1 hour ago, Sjakie said:

Hi, thanks for responding.

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I interpret that 'GastBoLichtAan' is the lux value deciding when it's considered dark? You can use globals directly in rules prefixed with $.

You only want to run the rules when HouseAlarm=='Disarm'. There are many ways to do that, but one way is to define sections of rules and enable/disable them depending on variable changing state. I have winter, summer, spring, weekdays and weekend rules in the same scene...

...you really have long variable names in the Netherlands  

 

Edited March 2, 2019 by jgab
forgot to add 217 to scene header

[Sjakie 156]

Hello,

thanks for the lesson.

My names are long yes, now since I know how to archive so I will understand it later too I made them just a sentence short.

All beginning is difficult.

Yes the time of the year or months I need to implement also but not all at the same time.

I just fixed (I hope ) that HC2 is setting my house temperature. Its working for one day now so I am hope full, hehehe. I created a week schedule, short absence and holiday. If this isworking I will set the original app on let say 5 degrees to prevent any damage in very cold weather if HC2 does not do its job.

This scene I need to extend with some months when the heating should operate.

We are progressing