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UBS Alarm Crow how to wire


Petar Mladenov
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Hello, I'm trying to connect the UBS to my alarm system/Crow Runner 8/ .
How do you think I should do it?
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  • Hi @Jamie mccrostie thanks to reply.

    I want to Turn ON/Off Alarm without Alarm Panel and PIN Code

    I have a Fibaro UBS and Fibaro Smart Implant

     

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    @Petar Mladenov

    Cool the implant will be perfect. 

    First you need to get a installer manual and read about  programing  a pluse input to arm.

    and while your at it  programing  a output which closes on arming so you can remotely know if its armed or not.

    Im not familiar with that brand but the are all kind of similar.

     

     Also if you want to reply to someone on this forum if you type a @ then the posters name a list appears which you can select the person you want then 

    and they will get a notification of a message.

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    Guys, unless someone knows how to do it, I would be careful. The names "kp clock" and "kp data" suggests those wires form a digital bus (might be wiegand if it is for proximity readers), not a simple "no or nc contact".

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    12 hours ago, Jamie mccrostie said:

    Hey @petergebruers

    Thats why I suggested he read up on a installer manual for that model

    Yeah, you know me, I would have done that, but I am on holiday... I am glad you 'take the lead" here...

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    @Petar Mladenov 

    Cool, first of all you need to program the alarm panel key switch inputs  for pulse set,  pulse unset 

    (You then can  set the implants output to momentarily close when setting and unsetting the alarm.)

     

    So read up on this so you understand what you doing with the alarm programming before starting off.

     

    Then you can bridge out the key switch terminals to test its setting and unsetting.( Keep reading because you will need resistors for this bit)

    There will be no delay like when setting with your keypad.

     

    The terminals you are going to use for the key switch are the tamper terminal to Gnd. It maybe already being used attached to a tamper switch on the box lid? or if

    unused it may just be bridged out.

    You can re purpose this by putting a 2k2 resistor in line for the tamper and then a 4k7 resistor inline for key switch # 1 (which you need  to program  to option 8, momentary)

    Then to connect implant.

    Unplug battery and switch off alarm

    connect...

    p to 12v

    Gnd to Gnd ( leave the second Gnd on the implant unused its for 

    other uses)

    Output 1 to tamper and Gnd with resistors (as in photo to right).

    check your wiring

    reconnect battery and switch on mains

    Add implant to your homecenter

     

    Then set implant param 154 to 0

                        and                  156 to 0.2

    Which makes the output normally open and pulse close  for 0.2 of a second.

     

     

     

     

     

    Note things to consider

    Is the alarm monitored, have you notified monitoring company.

    Do you have installer code? You will need this to change settings.

    Are you happy you understand? easy to get a alarm guy to set up for you.

    If you get this sorted first then I can tell you how to set up using implants inputs 

    to monitor alarm set/unset and alarm triggered.

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    Alternatively you can get a alarm guy to connect your implant to the panel and concentrate on getting that bit to work.

    Ive added some stuff to that last post to help you understand. Shes all a bit jumbled as im trying to do it from my phone.

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    On 4/13/2019 at 9:38 AM, Petar Mladenov said:

    Hello, I'm trying to connect the UBS to my alarm system/Crow Runner 8/ .
    How do you think I should do it?
    I also provide technical information


    I'm asking for help

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    Wich UBS are u using? New one or old one? I took the manual of the new one and in that case u need to connect right:

    P (POWER) – power supply conductor, red
    GND (GROUND) – ground conductor, blue
    IN1 – input no. 1
    IN2 – input no. 2
    TP (TEMP_POWER) – power supply conductor of the DS18B20 temperature sensor, brown (3.3V)
    TD (TEMP_DATA) – signal conductor of the DS18B20 temperature sensor, white
    ANT – antenna, black
    OUT1 – output no. 1 assigned to input IN1
    OUT2 – output no. 2 assigned to input IN2
    B – service button (used to add/remove the device)

     

    not sure which signals fibaro sensor provide but i bet it provides with NO/NC and impulse?

    your picture from the box is there all contacts or do u have also NO/NC on your control box ?

    can you Programm your control box? Do u have access to it?

    in any case u can use binary sensor to open 

     

    u checked the diagrams to the sensor? Use cases?

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    i looked up and have to ask do I also got the main board? I think there u need to connect UBS

     

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    @Alex Rob If you read all of the posts hes using a implant not a UBS :)

    And if you look there is a link to the correct alarm panel install manual.

    That drawing that Petar has provided doesnt show the correct bits.

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    4 minutes ago, Jamie mccrostie said:

    @Alex Rob If you read all of the posts hes using a implant not a UBS

     

     

    I guess it is more likely to use smart implant. 

     

     

    On 4/19/2019 at 9:35 AM, Petar Mladenov said:

    Hi @Jamie mccrostie thanks to reply.

    I want to Turn ON/Off Alarm without Alarm Panel and PIN Code

    I have a Fibaro UBS and Fibaro Smart Implant

     

     

    U need to use the smart implant and connect with terminals on your alarm for on/off. I did not worked so much with alarm systems but in the bottom is it easy ny connecting NO/NC u need to know if there is programmed input / output or if u have to do these adjustment. 

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