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Wall Plug leaks voltage to my outdoor 10Watt Led Floodlight


Mies_NL

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I have installed lots of wall plugs with serveral light.

Outdoor i have a 10watt Led Floodlight to scare people off.

Now i noticed that the light keeps burning on a very low light.

This is the first wall plug that has these problems....

 

Can i use for example the dimmer bypass between the led light en wall plug?

 

Or is there a other way to get rid of this problem.

My led floodlight must go off .

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25 minutes ago, Mies_NL said:

This is the first wall plug that has these problems....

Did you try replacing the wallplug with another one??

 

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  • 17 minutes ago, Flash said:

    Did you try replacing the wallplug with another one??

     

    Not i did not.

    When i measure the voltage without a lamp it’s 0.
    When light is connected i measure a minimal voltage.

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    8 minutes ago, Mies_NL said:

    When light is connected i measure a minimal voltage

    I'm not sure if the wallplug has 1 or 2 relay contacts. maybe one off the forum members know.

    If I assume that there is only one relay contact, and this one contact disconnect the neutral wire, there is a possibilty that there flow a very low current to ground. Wich result in a voltage on you're meter.

    Rotate the wallplug 180 degrees an measure again.

    If there a 2 relay contact the plug is faulty. Because the wallplug should make a galvanic seperation. between the load and the mainpower

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    Because the wall plug have 1 relay they are not for outdoor use. Most of the Fibaro switches have only one relay.

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  • 23 minutes ago, pjvik said:

    Because the wall plug have 1 relay they are not for outdoor use. Most of the Fibaro switches have only one relay.

    Well it’s not really outside more in a garage. 

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    1 minute ago, SmartHomeEddy said:

    I think a short test with an other wall plug will give you the answer.

    Agree

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  • On 12/2/2020 at 6:08 PM, Flash said:

    Agree

     

    Tested with 2 other Wall plugs and both the same problem.

    This is the first led light that has this problem.... strange...

     

    When i put in a other led light it does not have these problems ( tested with 1 watt and 4 watt lamp )

     

    So there is someting in the flood light that causes this problem i’m afraid....

     

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    9 hours ago, Mies_NL said:

    So there is someting in the flood light that causes this problem i’m afraid....

    Possible the pir sensor.

    Did you also try to rotate the plug 180 degrees??

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  • There is no pir sensor on this floodlight because i am using a Fibaro door sensor to activate a scene.
    Did try to turn it 180 degrees and no results.

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    42 minutes ago, SmartHomeEddy said:

    I don’t understand how the light can use voltage, when the wall plug is off. 

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    1 hour ago, akatar said:

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    Then I think

     

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    Switched neutral conductor

    A single-pole light switch normally switches the phase (L) in the line to the ceiling lamp. If the electrical wiring is not done professionally, the neutral conductor (N) sometimes is switched instead of the phase.

    In this case capacitive and inductive effects can still ensure that a low voltage between the live phase and the switched-off neutral conductor is applied to the LED lamp. This voltage is sufficient for the LED to glow weakly.

    What to do?
    • Check neutral conductor and phase for correct connection
    • If LED is still glowing, use two-pole light switch like the 

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    39 minutes ago, SmartHomeEddy said:

    Then I think

    That's why I said to turn the wallplug 180 degrees. It's single relais contact.

    Maybe 2 wallplugs will do the trick if, so you can disconnect the Live and Neutral.

     

    @Mies_NL

    Didn't the glowing occured earlier before the use off the wallplug??

    Or do you have the same symptoms if you use a single mechanical switch??

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    12 minutes ago, Flash said:

    That's why I said to turn the wallplug 180 degrees. It's single relais contact.

    Maybe 2 wallplugs will do the trick if, so you can disconnect the Live and Neutral.

     

     

    No, then use a 230v relais, wallplug switch relais, relais switch light.

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    46 minutes ago, akatar said:

    No, then use a 230v relais, wallplug switch relais, relais switch light.

    ☺️ Oops stupid answer from me according the use of 2 wall plugs.

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