Climate Added possibility to assign temperature sensors for climate zones.

[Momos 103]

Can you please clarify what "Climate  Added possibility to assign temperature sensors for climate zones" actually means and does ? 

 

Will it become the reference temperature sensor in the respective climate pannel and all thermostatic heads (FIBARO, Danfoss, Popp etc) will adjust accordingly until the climate zone set set temperature will match the one measured by the respective temperature sensor ?

If yes, please provide some details about the coding behing that: what is the variation from setpoint when the thermostatic heads will start to adjust, overshoot delta and so on.

 

thank you !

[m.roszak 763]

It is only a measured (average temperature) from selected sensors, it does not affect the logic behind climate panel - presentation purpose only.

You will find it (temperature value) in:
- sidebar of any thermostat assigned to a climate zone
- climate zone sidebar in climate dashboard
- zones list in settings 

[Momos 103]

Thank you for the answer.  I was hoping it becomes the reference point for the climate zone as this is a feature that would be very welcomed.

[jakub.jezek 370]

On 2/5/2023 at 5:11 AM, Momos said:

I was hoping it becomes the reference point for the climate zone as this is a feature that would be very welcomed.

A: It makes a sense it is only for presentation as climate panel only sends setpoint to thermostat so no regulation is done there.

 

B: Feature you talk about needs to be on different level. Thermostat needs to have capability to receive data about room temperature from Z-Wave and sensor needs to send it either through controller or associations. By this thermostat would have reference point and its own measured temperature, so it can regulate correctly to heat up/down the room.

[Momos 103]

I beg to differ.   Room heating can be comprised of multiple radiator valves, actuators, thermostat.  All depends on what is installed in each room.  In any heating system that has schedules there is a refference temperature sensor. According to that sensor the devices that actually provide heating (trv and actuators) are opened and closed to match the setpoint on the climate schedule.  This setpoint is the one that gets trasmitted to all the devices in the room and the measurement is done against the refference temperature sensor. And pretty much any TRV/thermostat is capable of receiving a setpoint. If room temp is not achieved, program should raise the setpoint , if it's overheating it should lower it and so on -all this can be achieved through LUA ....

The easy installation with one thermostat wired to an actuator is not even worth mentioning here - it is straightforward.  But in real life you have combinations like TRV alone, TRV with some wall thermostat (battery mostly), actuators + wall thermostat, actuator + nothing, actuator + TRV and so on.

 

My point is i never understood why the FIBARO heating pannel is not working like any other heating system out there. One refference temperature sensor, schedules and heating devices. One has to go through complicated LUA stuff to be able to actually heat a room properly.  If it's possible through LUA it should be possible to code it in the heating pannel also.

It's 2023 and heating is a basic fuinction of any system and it should be achieved by clicking next, next , next....

 

Just my 2c, don't take it personally  

 

 

Edited February 13, 2023 by Momos

[EveWes 0]

On 2/4/2023 at 11:18 PM, m.roszak said:

It is only a measured (average temperature) from selected sensors, it does not affect the logic behind climate panel - presentation purpose only.

You will find it (temperature value) in:
- sidebar of any thermostat assigned to a climate zone
- climate zone sidebar in climate dashboard
- zones list in settings 

 

Is this correct understood?

One Zone and one thermostat with one inbuilt tempsensor: regardless of setting tempsensor or not the sensor is

mainsensor. 

One Zone and one thermostat with one inbuilt tempsensor and one external tempsensor, both tempsensor

is selected as tempsensor. An average temp of the two tempsensors is used as one mainsensor.

 

One Zone and two thermostats with inbuilt tempsensors and one external tempsensor, all three tempsensors

is selected as tempsensor. An average temp of the three tempsensors is used as one mainsensor.