RGBW Controller v2 constantly flashing can't add to HC3

[Biggie 1]

I have an 2 X  FBRGBW-442 EU V.5

 

I can't get either to go to add mode. one keeps flashing green and the other flashes red. 

 

i've tried 3 successive button presses of the service button and keeping it pressed. 

 

what ever I try it just flashes 

[Tim__ 114]

Sounds like you've entered the menu. Have a read of the manual 

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  To add, you set the controller to add mode, and then triple click the device. Try making sure they are located next to each other when you do the add. Then return to their final positions, and reconfigure the zwave network for the device.

[cag014 632]

7 hours ago, Biggie said:

I have an 2 X  FBRGBW-442 EU V.5

 

I can't get either to go to add mode. one keeps flashing green and the other flashes red. 

 

i've tried 3 successive button presses of the service button and keeping it pressed. 

 

what ever I try it just flashes 

Please try to exclude and then to include again.

[Biggie 1]

no matter what I try constantly flashing red. 

i've tried adding/removing from controller pressing service button no matter what the RGBW modules just flashes red.  

[Biggie 1]

acting very strange QQ

 

i've connected to a triac LED power suppy wonder if this is causing the issue. 

 

Please note the driver isn't dimmed it's connected directly to mains   

[Martin_N 146]

@Biggie

Well, that might be the right question.

Must not have a constant current power source. Use a constant voltage supply.
I also suggest doing a factory reset... using the B button.

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they claim to be constant voltage but dimmable 

[Martin_N 146]

@Biggie

By using this source, you actually get into a similar regime as with Fibaro dimming.
The specifications clearly state:
Output Current 0.25 - 1.25A
From this it can be concluded that the power source is not able to work at a lower load than the 0.25A specified.
With the Fibaro dimmer, you also have to use a bypass to compensate for the low connected load (capacitive-resistive).
This does not mean that you can use a bypass for this source. By that I mean that you should try other power sources, which will be classically CV-switched or linear, but definitely not dimmable.

eM.

 

[Tim__ 114]

Agree with Martin_N.  The specs in the product link say "Note: This driver is intended to dim mains voltage single colour LED lights. If you are using a controller then you will not require a dimmable driver as the controller handles the low voltage dimming"

 

Back to the blinking, the manual says: 

"

• Blinking green – entering the menu (added without Security S2 Authenticated)
• Blinking magenta – entering the menu (added with Security S2 Authenticated)
• Blinking red – entering the menu (not added to a Z-Wave network)"

[Biggie 1]

so i've changed to non-dimmable driver 

 

how do I get this thing to go into add mode. 

 

i've tried pressing 3 consecutive times but no lights appear

[Martin_N 146]

@Biggie

Proceed according to the manual.
I recommend starting the "removed" mode first, three clicks on the B button.Wait... done.
Next, start the add mode and click the B button again.
It takes some practice, but it can be mastered.

[Biggie 1]

43 minutes ago, Martin_N said:

@Biggie

Proceed according to the manual.
I recommend starting the "removed" mode first, three clicks on the B button.Wait... done.
Next, start the add mode and click the B button again.
It takes some practice, but it can be mastered.

 

nothing no lights can't exclude or include. tried 3 quick presses several times 

it flashes red when I power up and I seem to get into the menu lights 

now wondering if it's powered correctly currently using this driver 

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Edited July 24, 2023 by Biggie
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[Martin_N 146]

@Biggie

Yes you are right. A red flash indicates that you are in the menu and the device is not logged in to HC3.
I recommend a reset. Keep holding the B button, the colors will start to change. When the yellow light is on, you release the button and quickly press it.
A reset will occur.
Then perform the pairing. Bring the module close to the HC3.

Just a note... before I found the right feeling for moving in the module menu with the Fibaro module, I literally got stronger from it... distinguish red and magenta, green from yellow... But it takes practice and then everything goes smoothly.

 

 

1 hour ago, Biggie said:

 

now wondering if it's powered correctly currently using this driver 

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If you have a CV LED driver, it may have the correct parameters at first glance, but it may not be suitable. There can be a fine line between a classically switched source and a CV LED driver. Drivers may contain additional optimization functions for powered devices that may not understand the RGBW2 module.
It is true that I have never used a CV LED driver type source for RGBW2. I have always used a classically switched power supply type LPV, GPV,... without an effector compensator.
I also came across a power supply that was supposed to have about 60% load on two halogens, but its internal structure did not cope with changes in the output voltage due to the PWM regulation behind RGBW2 and the power supply turned off... I described it in another thread.

So... if the module doesn't work for you, you still have the option of using another source.

 

 

[Biggie 1]

10 minutes ago, Martin_N said:

@Biggie

Yes you are right. A red flash indicates that you are in the menu and the device is not logged in to HC3.
I recommend a reset. Keep holding the B button, the colors will start to change. When the yellow light is on, you release the button and quickly press it.
A reset will occur.
Then perform the pairing. Bring the module close to the HC3.

Just a note... before I found the right feeling for moving in the module menu with the Fibaro module, I literally got stronger from it... distinguish red and magenta, green from yellow... But it takes practice and then everything goes smoothly.

 

 

 

If you have a CV LED driver, it may have the correct parameters at first glance, but it may not be suitable. There can be a fine line between a classically switched source and a CV LED driver. Drivers may contain additional optimization functions for powered devices that may not understand the RGBW2 module.
It is true that I have never used a CV LED driver type source for RGBW2. I have always used a classically switched power supply type LPV, GPV,... without an effector compensator.
I also came across a power supply that was supposed to have about 60% load on two halogens, but its internal structure did not cope with changes in the output voltage due to the PWM regulation behind RGBW2 and the power supply turned off... I described it in another thread.

So... if the module doesn't work for you, you still have the option of using another source.

thanks i'll try another supply funny thing is that one of the LED drivers (dimmable) i've used seems to be functioning fine with the RGBW

10 minutes ago, Martin_N said:

 

 

[Biggie 1]

I ordered a new power supply same issue just flashing red light and then nothing 

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i've tried more then one `RGBW same result just red flash and then nothing 

I just can't get into add mode

 

I don't give up easily but i'm now at a loss 

[Biggie 1]

When in add / remove mode is it obvious does the light flash (yellow) ?

 

[Martin_N 146]

On 7/25/2023 at 10:01 PM, Biggie said:

When in add / remove mode is it obvious does the light flash (yellow) ?

 

Yes...

 

[Martin_N 146]

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i've tried more then one `RGBW same result just red flash and then nothing

@Biggie

Am I to understand that you add a module with a connected RGBW strip and after the addition mode ends, this strip flashes red?

So far, no one has asked what version of fw you have on HC3, which version on RGBW2 (it should be written on the box).
And not the last question, .. what zwave engine do you use for HC3?
Do not add in security S2 mode. 

Bring module closer to HC3.

 

eM.

 

[Biggie 1]

On 7/27/2023 at 2:32 PM, Martin_N said:

@Biggie

Am I to understand that you add a module with a connected RGBW strip and after the addition mode ends, this strip flashes red?

So far, no one has asked what version of fw you have on HC3, which version on RGBW2 (it should be written on the box).
And not the last question, .. what zwave engine do you use for HC3?
Do not add in security S2 mode. 

Bring module closer to HC3.

 

eM.

thanks I actually sorted combination of making sure I have the correct driver and then talking the `RGBW module to the same room pressing the button several times linking and then installing in the actual location.