Including process is too hard

[10der 832]

Hi 

 

two devices: motion senor ans water protect sensor

45min on it. No way. 

5 reboot

10 hangs on adding process

shamanic tambourine

 

What else?!

 

 

FIbaro, it’s really OK?!

 

Device configuration in progress

[13:17:17] Home Center in learning mode
[13:17:23] Device added
[13:17:42] Adding devices complete

 

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[13:28:47] Home Center in learning mode
[13:28:53] Device was deleted successfully
[13:28:53] Slave Device Detected
[13:28:53] Removing devices finished
[13:29:14] Home Center in learning mode
[13:29:34] Removing devices finished
[13:30:40] Home Center in learning mode
[13:30:40] Learning mode error. Try again.

Edited March 20, 2018 by 10der

[petergebruers 1,268]

What you experience certainly is not typical. Because inclusion exchanges a TON of data, it is sensitive to what is happening on your network, much more than any other command. And sensitive to interference, though not many devices work on that 868 MHz band in Europe. But you are not in Europe... I don't know how "clean" your RF is... You still own that razberry? You can update to 2.3.6 and use it to display interference, it measures RSSI and also tries to estimate "foreign packets" so it should detect traffic of your other controller. It is in the expert menu. You do not have to use it as secondary controller, just install a fresh copy with new home ID and maybe 1 device to test inclusion...

[10der 832]

12 minutes ago, petergebruers said:

But you are not in Europe..

 

it really hurt.  I just don't like you saying it.

 

but anyway thank you

[petergebruers 1,268]

3 minutes ago, 10der said:

 

it really hurt.  I just don't like you saying it.

 

 

but anyway thank you

 

I am sorry... I meant to say: do you use the EU frequency?

 

I am not good at geography, nor politics or economics.

 

What is Europe anyway?

 

EDIT before anyone asks, the Americans, Brits, the Chinese are my friends too. I even would say "han people" because "china" is a western word. It is "Zhongguo" (Middle kingdom). My daughter tries to learn Chinese..

Edited March 20, 2018 by petergebruers

[matt1981 37]

im in italy "florence" and ive added maybe 30 devices to my HC2 and at the most, 1 or 2 have had issues..  thats a pretty good success rate.

[10der 832]

19 minutes ago, petergebruers said:

do you use the EU frequency?

 

yep, Sir!

23 minutes ago, matt1981 said:

im in italy "florence" and ive added maybe 30 devices to my HC2 and at the most, 1 or 2 have had issues..  thats a pretty good success rate.

good to hear that.

I have more than 100 devs. 

as far back as 5 months ago I have no problems. but now it a nightmare that stalks I sleep

 

 

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...I have stared rPi and raZberry smarthome.... thank you for suggesting.

[petergebruers 1,268]

10 minutes ago, 10der said:

 

29 minutes ago, matt1981 said:

im in italy "florence" and ive added maybe 30 devices to my HC2 and at the most, 1 or 2 have had issues..  thats a pretty good success rate.

good to hear that.

I have more than 100 devs. 

 

Yes, well, the number of devices certainly plays a part in that... I build my network in several phases and if I remember correctly, no issues < 20 devices. Trouble started around 50. Only recently I had an old Fibaro relay, it no longer displayed status at all times. Tried many things but gave up. I replaced it with a Z-Wave Plus version. Problem solved. I would have thought after all these years... I would be able to explain why the old relay suddenly sometimes did not report "OFF". But I could not find a cause, nor a fix (did implement a workaround for a while: poll the device).

 

You know... "Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes the bar eats you"

 

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[10der 832]

2 minutes ago, petergebruers said:

You know... "Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes the bar eats you"

ha-ha it's an old saw  

nice!

 

but if seriously, upgrading devices is not a good way to solve any problems.

 

[petergebruers 1,268]

 

I am speculating, a bit here...  do you have wireless devices operating in the 433 MHz band? Because the 2nd harmonic of that frequency is Z-Wave EU... It is a long shot. I have some test devices somewhere, the kind of "Arduino wireless" boards. I could test that if I can find them 

 

22 minutes ago, 10der said:

but if seriously, upgrading devices is not a good way to solve any problems.

 

Oh, it certainly felt like "defeat"! But it was either that, or "going mad". Or as my wife puts: "going even MADDER".

 

I kind of disagree, in my case: putting a Z-Wave Plus relay in that place (instead of Z-Wave) reinforced the mesh in that part of the house. One possible explanation for the issue is the older relay might have been on the edge of a direct connection. But that is speculation. Does not explain why it became unreliable.

[10der 832]

34 minutes ago, petergebruers said:

I am speculating, a bit here...  do you have wireless devices operating in the 433 MHz band? Because the 2nd harmonic of that frequency is Z-Wave EU... It is a long shot. I have some test devices somewhere, the kind of "Arduino wireless" boards. I could test that if I can find them 

 

yes. some Arduino devices with Arduino 433MHz Transmitter Receiver Module RF Wireless Link Kit‎ here. 433 China weather clock in meddle daughter room. 

btw. this

 

stick (with SDR application) also said about some 433 devices nearby me...

Edited March 20, 2018 by 10der

[petergebruers 1,268]

10 minutes ago, 10der said:

stick (with SDR application) also said about some 433 devices nearby me...

 

When you tune to 868.42 MHz and try AM modulation or wideband FM... What do you hear? You should hear a clear distinction between background and Z-Wave packets. Also the rhythm can be indicative of the amount of traffic. I'd say it is best to disable AGC of the stick and the application.

 

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[10der 832]

2 minutes ago, petergebruers said:

RGBW Mesh Reconfigure - two times.mp3

 

good morning! Cock-a-doodle-do!

 

thank you. I'll check when I will have time off from work.

[petergebruers 1,268]

I wanted to turn that into a phone notification sound. It scans all possible IDs... it is pretty intense. Inclusion does a neighbor update, so that takes even longer.

Edited March 20, 2018 by petergebruers