QuickApp as a weather provider

[fervefdsv 0]

Hello, I created QuickApp as a weather device and everything seems to be working fine. The only issue is that if I assign it as a Weather provider in General, I don't see the values in the UI in top right corner (see attachment). Is it possible to use QuickApp for that? And if so what "extra" needs to be done. At the moment I'm setting Temperature, Humidity, Wind, ConditionCode (3200 hardcoded) and WeatherCondition (unknown hardcoded) properties.

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[A.Socha 133]

Hi

 

i check with OpenWeatherMap and it working for me. I checked it on 5.030 who will be soon released for all users but in 5.021 should work too.

 

Example with OpenWeatherMap you will find on end of this site

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[fervefdsv 0]

Hmm, I tried adding Weather plugin and selecting random temperature sensor and humidity sensor. Still the same. Might be that 5.021 has this broken?

[A.Socha 133]

but open weathermap is working for you?

by Weather plugin is not working for me too i will report that

[tinman 1,071]

16 hours ago, fervefdsv said:

At the moment I'm Setting ConditionCode (3200 hardcoded) and WeatherCondition (unknown hardcoded) 

 

3200 is unknown, so the Icon type is ok. So far ok, but in such case other values are not displayed. That probably make sense?, no idea, i would probably still like to see temp/hum/wind even if weather condition is unknown/unavailable

 

Additionally condition codes in Quick App Waether template is wrong, see below

 

5 hours ago, A.Socha said:

I checked it on 5.030 who will be soon released for all users 

 

from QA template:

Posible conditions: "unknown", "clear", "rain", "snow", "storm", "cloudy", "fog" 

 

but from com.fibaro.weather

<property name="WeatherCondition" type="string" valuesSet="[cloudy,rain,snow,storm,clear,fog,unavailable]"> 

 

so that already one difference, but it seems both "unknown" and "unavailable" can be used in QA, result is the same, displayed Icon type is "not available".

 

The QA Weather template have as well wrong condition codes definition, i think "proper" values are:

 

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[Sankotronic 2,370]

Hello @A.Socha ,

 

I must say that all this about weather provider does not work 😡

 

My HC3 is on latest firmware 5.160.42 and first I installed provided plugin Weather provider and it does not update GUI weather:

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here is what are measurements on Weather provider:

 

 

Then I installed OpenWeatherMap provided on

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and still GUI weather is not updated. here is what openweathermap QA shows:

 

 

BTW - above QA is actually useless, but I wanted to see if there is any LUA code that can be used to update GUI weather same as on mobile app. Of course Yubii Home app is completely missing weather, while Yubii app is showing wrong data same as GUI in the browser 🤪

 

My questions are:

 

1) Is it possible to make some really working weather provider QA and use it to update GUI weather?

2) Where I can select default weather provider if more than one is installed?

3) If on both previous questions answers are negative then when do you plan to improve support for weather providers?

 

 

[Sankotronic 2,370]

Hi @A.Socha ,

 

I try to find what weather condition codes are available on HC3, but none of the searches of knowledge base came up with answer.

 

Is there any place I can find this codes? I need them to write really useful and working Weather providers for HC3 with some of the most popular weather services as I did for HC2. Can you help me with this? Maybe you can provide me also with SSH access to my HC3 so I can find some things by myself? (this last one you can answer to PM )

 

[SmartHomeEddy 1,007]

1 hour ago, Sankotronic said:

Is there any place I can find this codes?

Some time ago I have found these:

 

(The picture the top colomn) 

 

 

Edited June 2, 2024 by SmartHomeEddy

[Sankotronic 2,370]

Hi @SmartHomeEddy ,

 

Thank you for the list of Fibaro HC3 weather codes and icons. Still, I'm curious from where or who did you get this information?

 

Reason I'm asking is that I have invested tonnes of time investigating HC2 to be able to make UHAS and I was just hoping that with HC3 will be at least a bit better situation. But now after few years I can see that situation with HC3 is even worse, Fibaro is not providing anything, but some very basic information and we again have to go through 'try & fail' struggle to make some very nice quick apps which in return can bring more users to Fibaro family.

[jgab 2,647]

 

Well, the HC3 has more features so there is more stuff undocumented I guess 😕 

It's not worse, just kind of the same in my opinion, e.g. they are not prioritising developers being able to do great QAs... and it's not just that they are currently  busy... this has been the case the 10+ years I've had the system(s)... it's just not part of their DNA, as opposed to someone  like HAS... but we already had this discussion earlier...

Another issue for the HC3 is that the events from RefreshstateSubscriber is not documentet either...

Many of the /api/* is vaguely documentet with swagger etc... (or not documentet at all...)

 

 

 

[SmartHomeEddy 1,007]

1 hour ago, Sankotronic said:

Still, I'm curious from where or who did you get this information?

 

I think I got it from the page jgab mentioned, but apparently I have found some more. I did try everyone of them, to get the corresponding icon. 

[jgab 2,647]

So, I believe this being the underlying source - at least the codes seems to align

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[jgab 2,647]

14 hours ago, Sankotronic said:

My questions are:

 

1) Is it possible to make some really working weather provider QA and use it to update GUI weather?

2) Where I can select default weather provider if more than one is installed?

 

 

1) I guess nobody knows....

2) There is a weatherProvider id in /api/home that is set to the YR plugin deviceId for me - can probably be set to another QA id...

like api.put("/home",{weatherProvider=xyz})

[Sankotronic 2,370]

Hi @jgab ,

 

Thanks! Now when I read my first question... 😂🤣

 

I can't believe that HC3 is missing selection of weather provider under the General settings and HC2 has it since the beginning of the existence

[jgab 2,647]

1 hour ago, Sankotronic said:

Hi @jgab ,

 

Thanks! Now when I read my first question... 😂🤣

 

I can't believe that HC3 is missing selection of weather provider under the General settings and HC2 has it since the beginning of the existence

So, the question is WHO sets it?

Does YR plugin set itself as the /home/weatherProvider at startup? (maybe)

or the system anytime a com.fibaro.weatherProvder is installed (probably not)

or is it hardcoded for YR at a reset of the HC3? (maybe)

 

another aspect is that YR plugin will continue to update the weather data even if there is another QA provider in the system,

So YR should be uninstalled then.

Edited June 3, 2024 by jgab

[SmartHomeEddy 1,007]

You can select the weather provider in the HC3

[jgab 2,647]

3 minutes ago, SmartHomeEddy said:

You can select the weather provider in the HC3

Yes it's under Devices / Main Devices

...just found it  

[SmartHomeEddy 1,007]

They moved it some time ago, somehow I also need to search for it where is went. 😄

[Sankotronic 2,370]

I'm still HC2 user and when I look for something on HC3 I expect it to be on similar place. Now when you mention it I found it too

 

THANK YOU! 🙏❤️  I'm busy with making some of the weather providers like OpenWeather, Wunderground, WeatherBit etc. and this is MUST have. Still, I wish Fibaro is the main source of information for developers.