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Moving devices between controllers


Mark Manning

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I currently have an HC3 master and an HC3L which I have just added as a slave. The master is in the main house with all of the devices connected to it, but I also have a separate office building with LAN connection between the two (The office currently has an HC2 which is to be decommissioned and it has far fewer devices!).

 

Because the office building has a UPS I want to move the more expensive HC3 in there and use the HC3L in the house, where it will be kept in the attic, get very hot and very possibly suffer a reduced lifespan. I cannot find a way to 'transfer' devices between connected controllers, which seems a ridiculous limitation, does anyone know if there is a way to do it, or is the only possibility to remove every single device and re-associate each and every one with the new controller? This also raises questions about what would happen if one of the controllers dies, I would have thought that it would be possible to connect a new gateway and move all of the devices over to it, so what exactly does happen?

 

Some of the devices are in extremely hard to reach places and it seems ludicrous to need to physically access a device when it is already under the control of a gateway on the network.

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48 minutes ago, Mark Manning said:

I currently have an HC3 master and an HC3L which I have just added as a slave. The master is in the main house with all of the devices connected to it, but I also have a separate office building with LAN connection between the two (The office currently has an HC2 which is to be decommissioned and it has far fewer devices!).

 

Because the office building has a UPS I want to move the more expensive HC3 in there and use the HC3L in the house, where it will be kept in the attic, get very hot and very possibly suffer a reduced lifespan. I cannot find a way to 'transfer' devices between connected controllers, which seems a ridiculous limitation, does anyone know if there is a way to do it, or is the only possibility to remove every single device and re-associate each and every one with the new controller? This also raises questions about what would happen if one of the controllers dies, I would have thought that it would be possible to connect a new gateway and move all of the devices over to it, so what exactly does happen?

 

Some of the devices are in extremely hard to reach places and it seems ludicrous to need to physically access a device when it is already under the control of a gateway on the network.

I think no way to move devices between master and slave.

This is two independent z-wave network. You can "just" access your slave's devices from your master.

 

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong...

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In the cloud you can move all devices to another HC, as if you renew your HC but what on that HC you need to readd.

//Sjakie

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  • 1 hour ago, Sjakie said:

    In the cloud you can move all devices to another HC, as if you renew your HC but what on that HC you need to readd.

    //Sjakie

    I've seen this option, but it seems almost entirely pointless. For a start, any device which is a slave is excluded, which would mean that if a slave device is upgraded the process doesn't work. Second, the devices must both be online, which removes the possibility of recovering the configuration of a device from a backup onto a replacement.

     

    I don't understand what the reason is that a backup cannot be used to restore to a different device. It seems that if any Home Center dies the entire smart home must be reconfigured from scratch.

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    1 hour ago, Mark Manning said:

    I've seen this option, but it seems almost entirely pointless. For a start, any device which is a slave is excluded, which would mean that if a slave device is upgraded the process doesn't work. Second, the devices must both be online, which removes the possibility of recovering the configuration of a device from a backup onto a replacement.

     

    I don't understand what the reason is that a backup cannot be used to restore to a different device. It seems that if any Home Center dies the entire smart home must be reconfigured from scratch.

    There is an option: you can restore a backup from a broken HC to a new one, with the help of [email protected]

     

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    18 hours ago, Mark Manning said:

    I don't understand what the reason is that a backup cannot be used to restore to a different device. It seems that if any Home Center dies the entire smart home must be reconfigured from scratch.


    Hardware differences (ZW500 and ZW700) means different SDK and different memory mapping in eeprom.
    There is no tool available to migrate ZW700 to ZW500 from Z-Wave Alliance. 

    We are thinking about it but it is extremely hard due differences in the data Z-Wave chips stores. 
      

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