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Reasons to migrate HC2 to HC3?


jason8612

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I have an HC2 that has been running fine for the past 4 years or so with about 60 devices.

I remember I looked a while back to migrate over to the HC3, but there were some compatibility issues with some of my plugins, but those seem to be all resolved.

Is there any advantage to migrate over to the HC3 if my HC2 is still working just fine?

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no reason.

maybe you will have a younger system. in long term it can has longer lifetime.... maybe...

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There is nothing worse than "regret". If you have studied the pro's and con's of both systems and you want it - then buy it. Nothing worse than saying next year "I should have bought it"

 

Are you someone who enjoys doing Home Automation or do you like Tinkering with code, devices, technology?

 

I wish I could summarise everything but there are maybe 100 reasons pro con and on top of that it is a personal thing. I don' use the "alarm" function on either HC2 or HC3 and for some user it is super important...

 

The main reasons not to buy it: VDs and Lua have changed, there is no migration. You'll have to plan a way around that. Then Zigbee is coming but not in public beta yet, so we don't know what that will be. Bluetooth exists but is unlikely to happen soon. The 434 and 868 radio's are for NICE/FIBARO devices only.

 

Lastly, I do not have a crystal ball, I cannot tell if improved versions are coming (eg with better/newer radio chips, who knows?)... That may be a cause for regret.

 

There is also the "Matter" standard, announced by the Zigbee alliance, that will rule the world, but is always "just around the corner", like fusion energy. I might be a great standard, but at the moment it creates fear by asking people the question "are you using the right standard". Not a bad question, but also "FUD".

 

15 hours ago, jason8612 said:

about 60 devices.

If that is 60 physical devices then HC3 Lite and Yubii are not recommended, but if that's the number of logical devices you see in your interface it is (only) about 20-30 physical, then the smaller (and surely less capable) are an option. But check their limitations!

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  • 8 hours ago, petergebruers said:

    There is nothing worse than "regret". If you have studied the pro's and con's of both systems and you want it - then buy it. Nothing worse than saying next year "I should have bought it"

     

    Are you someone who enjoys doing Home Automation or do you like Tinkering with code, devices, technology?

     

    I wish I could summarise everything but there are maybe 100 reasons pro con and on top of that it is a personal thing. I don' use the "alarm" function on either HC2 or HC3 and for some user it is super important...

     

    The main reasons not to buy it: VDs and Lua have changed, there is no migration. You'll have to plan a way around that. Then Zigbee is coming but not in public beta yet, so we don't know what that will be. Bluetooth exists but is unlikely to happen soon. The 434 and 868 radio's are for NICE/FIBARO devices only.

     

    Lastly, I do not have a crystal ball, I cannot tell if improved versions are coming (eg with better/newer radio chips, who knows?)... That may be a cause for regret.

     

    There is also the "Matter" standard, announced by the Zigbee alliance, that will rule the world, but is always "just around the corner", like fusion energy. I might be a great standard, but at the moment it creates fear by asking people the question "are you using the right standard". Not a bad question, but also "FUD".

     

    If that is 60 physical devices then HC3 Lite and Yubii are not recommended, but if that's the number of logical devices you see in your interface it is (only) about 20-30 physical, then the smaller (and surely less capable) are an option. But check their limitations!

     

    60 physical devices, some 200 or so items. But it all works fine on HC2. I do love my tinkering and playing around. I don't use the alarm function (well, just notifications for doors and water and such). It does seem that there is no need really to upgrade especially if the HC2 is working just fine. 

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    If you're happy with the HC2 and not a guy who can not go to sleep without having written (and re-written) 300 lines of code every day: stay with your HC2, believe me.

    I had the HC2 working pretty well before the HC came. I was stupid and wanted the "newest and best". It turned out to be a disaster.

    I still have my HC3 with one (1) device connected, just to make sure that it is still working and to have a look at the new beta releases for the HC3.

     

    All my 100 plus z-wave (plus now also 30 + Zigbee) devices have been migrated to the Hubitat Elevation C7.

    Heaven on earth if you come from HC3.

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