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Aeotec Siren Gen 6


MarcoTorino71

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3 hours ago, chicken said:

If it is a problem with the usb connected controller (hardware), Fibaro could sell a replacement.

 

no Fibaro can't, the HC2 has been certified as is, any extra hardware means new EMV, CE, zwave certification.

 

3 hours ago, chicken said:

But I understand that they prefer to make more money with a complete new hardware.

 

Home Assistant need hardware / stick, both together costs the same as HC3L, which is z-wave certified at least.

 

3 hours ago, chicken said:

But I am willing to learn from you and will ask you a question now: what do you think is the reason that progression in Z-Wave standards cannot be implemented in Fibaro systems but can be implemented in Open Source systems like Home Assistant with also never changed controller hardware?

 

Nobody is stopping you from installing different linux distribution on HC2, inserting zwave stick and installing Home Assistant. Fibaro as manufacturer simply can't, compare that to cars, no manufacturer will attach new engine, and re-market old model, only because wheels are still ok. When you using Home Assistant, tell me, how many Raspis / hardware did you tested / replaced already? 

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On 11/22/2021 at 12:28 AM, tinman said:

any extra hardware means new EMV, CE, zwave certification.

Okay, that makes sense. Somehow.

On 11/22/2021 at 12:28 AM, tinman said:

Home Assistant need hardware / stick, both together costs the same as HC3L, which is z-wave certified at least.

Nope. Check what a Raspi and a stick costs: You won't have to pay much more than about 60 Euros. Maybe 80, but that would be already very high. The advantage is, that you are able to upgrade the software whenever needed and you won't be excluded from using hardware like this Aeotec Doorbell 6.

On 11/22/2021 at 12:28 AM, tinman said:

compare that to cars, no manufacturer will attach new engine, and re-market old model, only because wheels are still ok.

Hmmm... Probably not engines, but they sell software upgrades and hardware extensions.

On 11/22/2021 at 12:28 AM, tinman said:

When you using Home Assistant, tell me, how many Raspis / hardware did you tested / replaced already? 

I am using Home Assistant for some years now. I never exchanged any hardware during this time. Actually I am using Home Assistant on a Xen virtual machine based on Arch Linux. The host system is a small SoC desktop computer (about 350 Euros 5 years ago) based on Gentoo Linux, which I also use for telephony (FreePBX on a separate VM), for a Samba Domain Controller and File Server (also VM) and a Bareos Backup System. All data lies on RAID1 SSDs. A few weeks ago, I exchanged the old (deprecated) Z-Wave software with zwave-js. Everything works even faster now, though it was much faster than this Fibaro UI already before. Without cloud necessitation - I am using OpenVPN instead. And - as already mentioned - without any hardware replacements or upgrades.

 

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