Reconfigure mesh network

[FBerges 52]

Hi

I would like to carry out a reconfiguration in mash with some devices.
That works under the menu item "z-wave", "Reconfigure mesh network".
Then select device and press execute.
So far so good.
But that's not possible for me, both fields are grayed out.
I have the following incident here:
HC3, firmware 5.061.36, Brouser (it doesn't matter for anyone), user admin.
Is there a limitation?
Do I have to specify something else?
How can I activate this.
Restarting, changing language, etc. did not help.
This seems to work for others with the same configuration.

Greetings Frank

Edited February 20, 2021 by FBerges

[SmartHomeEddy 865]

10 minutes ago, binoxGTS said:

Anybody knows why they removed Reconfigure mesh network in the last firmware versions?

Still there?

 

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10 minutes ago, binoxGTS said:

Can this be done from the fibaro installer app?

Yes, an installer can re-route devices in the installer app. 

[binoxGTS 0]

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Still there?

Which firmware version? 

 

[SmartHomeEddy 865]

5.120.10 and “stable” z-wave version. 

[Fabir 65]

@binoxGTS

Hi try the scene, routing info for hc3. It will show you if there are any zwave mesh connections.

 

the download link is here:

 

 

scroll down a little bit to the message from jwi, there is the link to download the scene.

It doesn't need any configuration.

 

Which zwave engine did you choose for the hc3 installation? ZW3 or ZW2?

If you can't reconfigure the zwave network, I guess it's ZW3

 

[binoxGTS 0]

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If you can't reconfigure the zwave network, I guess it's ZW3

Yes, it is ZW3.

In the meantime I attended to the installer training to get access to the installer app.

Today I tried the installer app and it doesn't seem to help me at all. I tried to refresh the meshing for the first device and it doesn't seems to do anything. After 2+ hours it looks the same ( no info about meshing).

 

 

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Edited December 19, 2022 by binoxGTS

[Martin_N 146]

@binoxGTS

I don't like it very much.
However, even Fibaro claims that the ZW3 engine is "Beta" for testing in a non-production environment.
Follow the recommendations and even a huge amount of work with the exclusion and inclusion of all more than 200 devices - perform a factory reset and you will switch to a stable ZW2.
I'm not convinced about the stability of the latest FW, but anything will be better. than the current state.

[Fabir 65]

@Martin_NHi about 2 month ago, I had opend a ticket about the same issues to Fibaro support. They've told me, the ZW3 engine is not even in alpha status yet. And also the Fibaro Installer App can not help about ZW3 issues.

 

So if you have installed ZW3 on a hc3/hc3l, you need to start from scratch with ZW2.

[Martin_N 146]

@binoxGTS

Ah... so I wrote Beta and it's not even Alpha
So... ZW3->ZW2 migration and possible downgrade to 5.120.10 could solve your problems.

 

Fabir has relevant information from support.

eM.

[Fabir 65]

@Martin_NI also asked the Fibaro Support if there is a migration path from ZW3 > to ZW2. They've told me no, there is no migration possible. You have to start from scratch with ZW2.

 

About the downgrade to 5.120.10 I'm not sure. In my case, the latest release 5.130.64 is working OK.

[Martin_N 146]

@Fabir

Of course, I meant starting from scratch by migration. If you read my posts above, I recommended a factory reset, switch to ZW2.
It must be clear to everyone that with the factory settings, the complete configuration is lost and it starts over. I also wrote that it will be a lot of work to exclude those 200 devices and add them to the new one.
As for the fw version, I personally haven't yet found the courage to upgrade to a version higher than 5.110 even with the customer.
According to the reaction on the forum, it seems that 5.120 can be stable as well.
There is a procedure to download conretni fw and upload it to HC3 - search.

[tinman 1,027]

@binoxGTS the zw3 is not supported in installerapp (there are some other things not working anymore in installer app as well, Fibaro is aware about).

 

On zw3 firmware one can for sure call neighbours update via API commands, e.g. in swagger, under "zwave -> Node -> Node Neighbours update", and then "zwave -> Node -> Get Node Neighbour list" to watch results

 

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So all the API calls are there and working, they simply not yet working from BUI (z-wave settings) nor InstallerApp

 

 

[Fabir 65]

@tinmanHi, the main issue with hc3 and ZW3 engine, is the low range of the zwave network. In my case I've replaced a hcl with a hc3. All zwave devices remained on the same locations as with the hcl. Some of the devices lost connection all the time, others sometimes. I've startet from scratch, no migration.

 

Other people reported the same issues. Some people think that's not the case. I suggest try it out yourself.