Fibaro radiator thermostat

[Bodyart 231]

Ok guys,

 

let's say, that we are establishing in fact the shortlist of criteria. Than it woul'd be very helpfull if you woul'd define your own criteria like the display by @jakub.jezek or external sensor and other things.

Unfortunately i can hardly participate, because i don't have warwater heating at home and i have too little knowledge about the current valves on market and their properties.

I hope to learn something from thouse criteria in order to make considderd choise, when i start realizing central water heating in home this autum.

Ofcourse i do the searching myself, but i thought reading this discussion, that it maybe helpful for many users.

 

Thnx 4 your reactions.

 

[tinman 1,070]

Regards Fibaro Thermostate, it does have display, color LED display 

 

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16,17,18,19,20

21,22,23,24

 

max

 

so it is only matter of time to learn them, number on display does not means for humans anything, it is just number, color can do exact the same informational thing (and it did that for years on mechanical thermostates)

 

That external sensor is only bit bigger than CR2032, and it is optional. Fibaro will announce all the features anyway, very officially, this week so just be patient (and pre-order already some^^)

 

[jakub.jezek 371]

@Bodyart, my definition of temperature sensor. Anything, that accurate meassure temperature and it's not placed near or on source of heating (atleast 1,5 - 2 m from radiator, floor heating, ...). Fibaro motion sensor (FGMS-001) is very goord example. But In package of Fibaro radiator thermostat should be nice and very small temperature sensor, so i would like to use it. But i did not have it in my hands yet, so for now i will stick with motion sensor now. Hopefully there will be beta testing where i can participate.

 

@tinman, those icons are familiar to me . Also i see it will be very simmilar to Danfoss in terms of command classes.

[Bodyart 231]

Hi all!

Has anyone already some experience with Fibaro thermostate?

 

[petergebruers 1,268]

I've ordered one. I'll let you know when it arrives... I guess some people may have it, because Fibaro usually beta-tests devices with "a live audience"

[jakub.jezek 371]

@petergebruers, not in this case I'm afraid. Guys from Fibaro really rushed with this one to get it to market before season start.

 

Start of heating season sell most heating devices. Since middle of August I did few sollutions for our salesman, for connecting fancoils, that will be installed in the October. And since then I hate developers (ones that build buildings).

 

But I believe this device will work as expected.

 

Edited September 22, 2017 by jakub.jezek

[jakub.jezek 371]

Looks like it's out:

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[Sjekke 87]

Still not deliverable in BeNeLux distribution 

Edited November 3, 2017 by Sjekke

[jakub.jezek 371]

@Sjekke, I believe we will have to wait till December.

[DinoKustas 1]

Now if only the Nest plugin still worked and could be integrated into this....

[pschmidt 2]

The termostat is already available in open sale. Today I have received first one. It looks, that the basic functionality is working fine, but the configuration options on 4.140 software are rather poor. Some features has been added in new beta version, but there is not stable software available yet.

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[Sjekke 87]

2 hours ago, DinoKustas said:

Now if only the Nest plugin still worked and could be integrated into this....

+1000

 

Incredible that this takes so long ...

1 hour ago, pschmidt said:

The termostat is already available in open sale. Today I have received first one. It looks, that the basic functionality is working fine, but the configuration options on 4.140 software are rather poor. Some features has been added in new beta version, but there is not stable software available yet.

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So it's like buying a new  a car and hoping that your airbags don't go off when driving 120Km

 

Edited November 8, 2017 by Sjekke

[pschmidt 2]

2 minuty temu, Sjekke napisał:

+1000

 

Incredible that this takes so long ...

 

So it's like buying a new  a car and hoping that your airbags don't go off when driving 120Km

 

Fortunately, I only bought one for the test

[petergebruers 1,268]

I just found out that my web shop has stocked the Thermostat and the Sensor, but in separate boxes. Unfortunately I bought the set (one box) and that means an ETA of end of November... Doh!

Edited November 13, 2017 by petergebruers
Meant to write... end of November...

[jakub.jezek 371]

Just now, petergebruers said:

I just found out that my web shop has stocked the Thermostat and the Sensor, but in separate boxes. Unfortunately I bought the set (one box) and that means an ETA of end of December... Doh!

Fibaro sent us Thermostat in separate boxes too. they should arrive to us this week. I just hope i will receive one from our sales for testing.

 

On 4. 11. 2017 at 8:13 AM, jakub.jezek said:

@Sjekke, I believe we will have to wait till December.

I hate when i have right in these statements.

[petergebruers 1,268]

@jakub.jezek

 

I meant to write "end of November" but I wrote "end of December". I've edited my post.

 

Maybe I should have said: "I bought the set (one box) and that means it will be available *soon*"

 

LOL

[Sjekke 87]

2 minutes ago, petergebruers said:

I just found out that my web shop has stocked the Thermostat and the Sensor, but in separate boxes. Unfortunately I bought the set (one box) and that means an ETA of end of December... Doh!

 

I hope you get your Thermostat faster then the promised Fibaro Door Bell which was announced in 2015.

 

2 minutes ago, jakub.jezek said:

Fibaro sent us Thermostat in separate boxes too. they should arrive to us this week. I just hope i will receive one from our sales for testing.

 

I hate when i have right in these statements.

 

Indeed

[jakub.jezek 371]

1 minute ago, petergebruers said:

@jakub.jezek

 

I meant to write "end of November" but I wrote "end of December". I've edited my post.

 

Maybe I should have said: "I bought the set (one box) and that means it will be available *soon*"

 

LOL

Still, you probably receive it in December and gods know when "set boxes" will be made.

 

OT:

1 minute ago, Sjekke said:

I hope you get your Thermostat faster then the promised Fibaro Door Bell which was announced in 2015.

If you mean intercom by that, then Q1 or Q2 of 2018 could be fullfilled, because i seen it on Fibaro conference (for partners only) actually working and alive. But please, don't ask me questions about it, because i may not have answer or simply cannot answer them, yet. But intercom is for another topic .

[Sjekke 87]

Indeed ... I meant the Intercom.

[jakub.jezek 371]

So my Hippie ball (Fibaro heat controller) arrived (one for testing). But i thought Fibaro told at partner conference, that there will be more mAh. There is only 1400 mAh. And i must say, i'm still amazed by size of temperature sensor.

 

So some PRO from 1st impression (hippie ball + temperature sensor):

• Box had everything
• Modern inovation (i still thinking, there should be invisible display there)
• Really small temperature sensor usable for both Z-Wave and Homekit heat controller.
• FLIR
• Appearence in mobile app

So some Cons from 1st impression:

• I do not like the sound when i rotate it manually. Sorry, but i do not like that. i like Danfoss Eco (LC-14) more.
• And i'm not impressed by mounting it to Danfoss RA-N adapters. Danfoss Living connect Z took 30 seconds to install. This took me 3 minutes.
• Sound of that engine. I do not know if it is me or simply is that horrible compared to Danfoss.

Now, i need to wait till it's charged.

 

Foto of unpacked packege with hipie ball mounted to valve.

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Sorry for calling it hippie ball, but it is ball with collored LED in the front.

Edited November 14, 2017 by jakub.jezek