Is Fibaro prepairing to introduce new gateway soon?

[damo78 0]

Well, I'm dreading this... I haven't touched my Fibaro setup for a year or so, primarily because I'm moving house finally this week.  But in my new house I'd planned to start from scratch (sold my house as a smart home) and have just ordered my new HC2.  But having read this above I'm now concerned what I'm letting myself in for.

 

I originally had a HC2 about 7 years ago, when it was touted as Apple-like, but when I got it, it was anything but. Definitely not ready for consumers.  That device bricked due to upgrading the firmware, and for about a year I did without. Then a couple of years ago or so I reinvested and got another and since installing everything I've left it alone on purpose.  I'm now just refreshing my knowledge for starting up again and this is not the post I wanted to see  Deja vu

 

I feel all of your pain - losing everything you've programmed on multiple occasions is a nightmare. I also have the NEEO remote and the Homey (which at least uses JavaScript and has a nice UI), but neither of these are any better, albeit use JavaScript which is a far better language for a base code, universality, support etc.

 

I'm going to looking into offloading as much as possible from the HC2 to Node.js or even using Node-RED as @

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 has suggested.  Good luck everybody.  Let's hope we get a nice surprise with a HC3 backed by Node.js with a separate but integrated IDE... not holding out much hope.

[jimicr 90]

1 hour ago, damo78 said:

Let's hope we get a nice surprise with a HC3 backed by Node.js with a separate but integrated IDE... not holding out much hope.

Hope we get a proper working HC2 first.

 

Did a backup today after adding a new device (Aeon motion sensor Gen5) which went perfectly.

After the backup Z-wave failed to start again so I had to do a reboot to get it back working.

 

Jim

[ctyd 15]

if there comes a hc3 i dont want to buy it, i think i could better sould my hc2 on ebay and buy another system. why want to buy a fibaro product? the service is miserable and the hc2 is lightyears away from today smarthome.

and i hate the app because you have to click 5 times when you want to switch a light and hue is not configured as light and many other things

 

at this time iam only need the hc2 for sending the trigger to the switches, i dont run scenes or any other, i dont use the alexa skill or anything else, i do all with node-red and node-red cost 40€ for the raspi, thats all and it works realy fine and good, dont need this damm system.

Edited July 23, 2018 by ctyd

[10der 832]

4 hours ago, ctyd said:

i do all with node-red

I don't disagree with you.

but one little notice here... as an author of node-red-contrib-fibaro-hc2.. yes, node-red is cool but periodic polling HC2 for events is not good as for me.. for example, if you wanna create a flow for motion action.

[Joep 200]

I don't get the Node-RED thing. If all my devices are setup in HC2 and the non Fibaro devices as virtual ones, I can trigger everything with scenes. What is the advantage of Node-RED?

[Bodyart 231]

20 hours ago, gucio1234 said:

FIBARO - wee need to hear your comment on what @Sankotronic described starting this thread.

 

Hi @gucio1234,

 

it looks like the moderators are all on holiday... there is still no reaction from FIBARO...

 

[Sankotronic 2,370]

Hello all!

 

I was contacted by T.Konopka asking me if I can give access to Fibaro QA team to my HC2 so they can analyze what is happening. Of course I immediately send them necessary information to do that.

I'm still waiting for results.

 

[Bodyart 231]

11 minutes ago, Sankotronic said:

I was contacted by T.Konopka asking me if I can give access to Fibaro QA team to my HC2 so they can analyze what is happening. Of course I immediately send them necessary information to do that.

I'm still waiting for results. 

Hi @Sankotronic,

 

now i understand that not the moderators, but the support is on holiday

 

[petergebruers 1,268]

28 minutes ago, Sankotronic said:

I can give access to Fibaro QA team

That is good news, QA is kind of like 2nd line support. It means they take your problem seriously!

[chaicka 195]

On 7/24/2018 at 1:17 AM, damo78 said:

I'm going to looking into offloading as much as possible from the HC2 to Node.js or even using Node-RED as @

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 has suggested.  Good luck everybody.  Let's hope we get a nice surprise with a HC3 backed by Node.js with a separate but integrated IDE... not holding out much hope.

 

If I am at executive level of Fibaro, I will hold out the HC3 till end of year and align it with 700-series SoC and probably by then the Bluetooth 5.x with Mesh is available for mass market too. That will be a great roadmap to gel Z-Wave to HomeKit with one piece of hardware. But then, I am not at Fibaro executive level. 

 

And while I am at it, PLEASE Fibaro, do not starve HC3 of memory. 2GB of memory does not even add US$10 to the BoM! Give it a decent amount of memory to compensate for non-optimised/efficient APIs and other layers. You will see a drastic drop in swap utilisation hence I/O. 

Edited July 25, 2018 by chaicka

[jakub.jezek 370]

9 minutes ago, chaicka said:

 

If I am at executive level of Fibaro, I will hold out the HC3 till end of year and align it with 700-series SoC and probably by then the Bluetooth 5.x with Mesh is available for mass market too. That will be a great roadmap to gel Z-Wave to HomeKit with one piece of hardware. But then, I am not at Fibaro executive level. 

Makes sense. With Z-Wave 700 it it should be great with Smart Start.

 

My wish of future:

Or maybe BLE (Homekit) and Z-Wave on same chip comming soon.

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[chaicka 195]

That is likelihood another year or more away.....And probably makes more sense for z-wave devices instead of gateway. There are probably more pros of having the Z-wave and BLE5.x Mesh separate on gateway than cons.

[Sankotronic 2,370]

Still nothing, not a word from Fibaro.

 

As a user that opened his HC2 to internet I would expect at least to be informed when Fibaro team started and when finished with my HC2 so that I can close ports and start using my HC2 normally as it can be with all this problems at hand. This is last time I opened my HC2 to them. First time was Fibaro support and I never get informed about their action or results.

 

And now again, not a word from Tuesday 13h when I send information for connecting to my HC2. Lame!

 

[Bodyart 231]

4 minutes ago, Sankotronic said:

Still nothing, not a word from Fibaro. 

Perhaps they are in shock?!?

[jwi 53]

3 hours ago, Sankotronic said:

Still nothing, not a word from Fibaro.

 

Why should they say that if it were so.
Nobody would buy a HC2 anymore.
Everyone would wait for the new HC3.
And that would not be good.

However, this is only my opinion. 

[Bodyart 231]

7 hours ago, Sankotronic said:

As a user that opened his HC2 to internet I would expect at least to be informed when Fibaro team started and when finished with my HC2 so that I can close ports and start using my HC2 normally as it can be with all this problems at hand. This is last time I opened my HC2 to them. First time was Fibaro support and I never get informed about their action or results.

Hi @jwi,

 

the above story is the point, not about a possible HC3, so i think you've misunderstood the posting of @Sankotronic

 

[jwi 53]

@Bodyart

Of course you are right.
I focused too much on the thread's name and the first post by @Sankotronic
My mistake.

[Bodyart 231]

12 hours ago, Sankotronic said:

Still nothing, not a word from Fibaro

Hi @Sankotronic,

 

i'm sorry to hear that, ut we all know, that Fibaro is NEVER giving straight answers.... unfortunally

 

[10der 832]

@Bodyart

Well, almost everything - for there must be some intrigue, a hint at continuation left. Some intrigue to liven up your humdrum little life.

[Bodyart 231]

@10der,

Well if Fibaro woul'd ask me for credentials to access my HC2 and then no word from them u woul'd be really pissed, believe me!

This is NOT the way to treat your custommers, agree?

Edited July 26, 2018 by Bodyart