New Fibaro Motion/Multi Sensor - when will it be available?

[mvrekum 2]

hvb83, problem can be with cold temperature on standard battery

A standard alkaline battery has an operating temperature of -20ºC to 54ºC (Duracell)

I have plenty of battery operated equipment outside, without any problems.

So that is definitely not the issue.

[deanrparry 19]

hvb83, problem can be with cold temperature on standard battery

A standard alkaline battery has an operating temperature of -20ºC to 54ºC (Duracell)

I have plenty of battery operated equipment outside, without any problems.

So that is definitely not the issue.

Are they water tight?

[mvrekum 2]

hvb83, problem can be with cold temperature on standard battery

A standard alkaline battery has an operating temperature of -20ºC to 54ºC (Duracell)

I have plenty of battery operated equipment outside, without any problems.

So that is definitely not the issue.

Are they water tight?

Yes they are water tight.

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Just want to make clear to A.Socha that batteries are no reason to not make the sensor water tight.

[deanrparry 19]

So why a definitive no to outdoor use?

[Lauri 6]

I think that Fibaro has not designed this to be working outside and this is it. It doesnt mean that you cant use it outside, or that it will brake down. If we arrive our batch, I will certainly try out one sensor outside also

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[mvrekum 2]

So why a definitive no to outdoor use?

If you keep it out of the rain, like under an overhang, I do not believe it should be any problem.

[robmac 173]

There are no seals so you will have to find a way to keep it from getting damp inside.

Two joints

1) the body and sensor window

2) the back

Both are very fine joint lines and I am sure you could seal easily but it is clearly not designed for external use.

It is up to you if you want to seal one or risk outside in a protected area. I doubt you would be able to get warranty support but that is not unreasonable.

[Guest shapa]

Well, in case someone is really looking for that...

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It really works.

[ Added: 2014-04-09, 21:58 ]

Purchased 3 sensors to play with.

In short - waste of money. Don't buy them.

1) Motion detection distance is a joke. Aeon 4-1 is ~1.5x better, EZmotion+ is ~2x better.

2) Mount / fixing is ridiculous. Any serious vibration (like a door closed) - they are moving.

What a shame!

[ Added: 2014-04-10, 08:43 ]

OK, light sensor is crazy on a "shiny new" sensor also.

Bright sunny day, the same room.

Aeon:

296 Lux

Fibaro:

20 Lux.

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[Guest Kuuno]

mu tests in a larger installation

got it to work over routing what was more important for me. The 4-1 never worked well over routing!

Lux is like stated before quite wrong. dont know how it is measuring that

the speed. for me it is better than 4-1. it fall sbetween ezmotion 3-1 and aeotec 4-1 bot closer to ezmotion sensor

i did get it to trigger at 7m but sideways motion. if you walk towards the sensor then it does not detect that well but there are parameters to play with. this was w out of the box parameters.

if lux is fixed then for us it is best option right now!

[robmac 173]

Lux is like stated before quite wrong. dont know how it is measuring that

I thought that at first but it is correct. If you point it out of a window you get what you would expect. Point at a dark wall and a light wall and it is surprising how it reads.

[A.Socha 133]

Kuuno, if you need more precision in LUX use parameter 42 he will check current level and will report on every interval report

[Guest Kuuno]

Kuuno, if you need more precision in LUX use parameter 42 he will check current level and will report on every interval report

will test, thanks!

[Valken 0]

Hi Guys,

I am now really confused as to what to get?

I initially ordered 2X Aeon 4-1 Sensors (Just befor Fibaro Sensor was launched)

Then when i saw the Fibaro Sensor marketing and info i changed my order to 2X Fibaro sensors.

Now i read these comments!?

Is there anyone else out there using the new Fibaro sensors please.

I need to make a dicision before i have my sensors delivered!

So - Fibaro or Aeon 4-1???

[deanrparry 19]

I have 10 of each aeons always unreliable... Fibaro are nice to be honest!

[robmac 173]

I have been running sample fibaro for a couple of months and they are good.

The lux is precise and is not incorrect but is more a reading of what the sensor is pointing at than an average reading for the room. You just need to adjust parameter 40 for change of lux to report to suite your location.

For a bright location like a conservatory or pointing towards a window default or higher. For a top corner pointing down to the floor away from windows a lot lower.

I tested one in a dark storage room with a small window and needed to set the parameter to 10 to get the lux reading working and triggering the light on movement only when dark through a lua scene. If you set this value in a bright room you would get a report every few seconds on a day with sunny intervals so not a good idea.

[hvb83 1]

So in conclusion it could be said that the lux value isn't correct, but it does the job in providing a reliable trigger based on differences in the lighting value anyway?

[robmac 173]

Why is it not correct?

[Starbug 0]

I Have just installed 10 of the Fibaro Motion/Multi Sensor and so far I think they preform better than the existing Aeon Multi Sensor of which I already had 3. Temperature accuracy is a lot better than the Aeon, its only 0.5 deg difference to my Horstmann SRT321 Thermostats in each room where as the Aeon is 2-3 degrees different, plus you can adjust the offset of the fibaro. Movement trigger seems faster than the Aeon but I have not got any issues with range as max distance I am using is about 5m. Lux is as reported I think in that its more light level of where sensor is directed. The bracket around the ball could be a bight tighter but none have fallen down yet!

[TANE 12]

Very nice..

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First thing what i have done is disabling the colors...it's to much in the corner of the room.

The first units will ship to the Dutch customers today.

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[m.roszak 765]

OK, light sensor is crazy on a "shiny new" sensor also.

Bright sunny day, the same room.

Aeon:

296 Lux

Fibaro:

20 Lux.

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Please adjust parameter 40...

This parameter determines how much the light intensity has to differ from the last value to be reported to the controller.

Default value is "200", please set lower value (for expample "50") - it will report more often.

Another solution is to turn on the reports based on interval (parameter 42), default value is "0" so the reports will be send according to parameter 40.

If in the actual location of the sensor light intensity don't differ much probably best option for you is to use both parameters.

But please don't set extremely low values because battery operating time will be shortened.

For example:

parameter 40 set to 50

parameter 42 set to 1800 (30 minutes)

Motion sensor will raport every 30 minutes or when light intensity will change more than 50 lux.

Regards,

M. Roszak