Tutorial: Single scene instance / Event model

[jgab 2,642]

18 minutes ago, fastvd said:

In other words: how can you check if there is such an ID at all?

I don't understand the question.

If you put the id in the existingDevices table, you will get an event your rule can trigger on if the device doesn't exist.

If you start with an empty existingDevices table, you will get an event if any device disappears after the QA have started up.

 

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24 minutes ago, jgab said:

I don't understand the question.

If you put the id in the existingDevices table, you will get an event your rule can trigger on if the device doesn't exist.

If you start with an empty existingDevices table, you will get an event if any device disappears after the QA have started up.

 

Yes, this logic that you describe is correct, but ONLY under the condition that there will be a generation of DELETE of the device!
And I am 99% sure that it will not exist, since several times I have had zigbee devices simply disappear from the system on their own, I did not give a request for deletion! Moreover, these were temperature sensors, opening sensors, and relays! the only thing that unites them is the manufacturer SONOFF! But I can't say that there won't be such a problem with others!
That's why the idea came up to say MONITOR whether there is a device with a given ID in the system at all!

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PS: at what did I then add the same devices to the home assistant + zigbee dongle, and there were exactly the same automatic deletions from the system. Specifically with the SML-02Z-L Tuya Smart Zigbee 2CH Lno-neutral model

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PS2:
1)with snzb-04 opening sensor on HC3 it just deleted itself and doesn't update status and on HA+zigbee2mqtt it just doesn't update status(moreover, I have 5 such sensors - 2 of them work normally, and the other 3 are problematic!)
2) with a temperature sensor:
and on HC3 and on HA+zigbee2mqtt, the connection simply disappears and updated data does not come (on HA+zigbee2mqtt it is clearly visible, because there are more diagnostic methods), but apart from that, on HC3 it also deletes itself! (Out of 4pcs sensors, 2 immediately after a few days began to malfunction and not send data, 1 worked for about 3 months, and so far 1 only works normally! All of them are 4-6 m away from my HC3)

 

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[jgab 2,642]

33 minutes ago, fastvd said:

Yes, this logic that you describe is correct, but ONLY under the condition that there will be a generation of DELETE of the device!
And I am 99% sure that it will not exist, since several times I have had zigbee devices simply disappear from the system on their own, I did not give a request for deletion! Moreover, these were temperature sensors, opening sensors, and relays! the only thing that unites them is the manufacturer SONOFF! But I can't say that there won't be such a problem with others!
That's why the idea came up to say MONITOR whether there is a device with a given ID in the system at all!

But in the post I also provide another example that polls the devices every minute and checks if any disappeared - and then posts an event that the rule can trigger on. And if you put it in the existingDevices list at startup if will check if the device exists then. 

[jgab 2,642]

Do you have the sensor associated both on HC3 and on HA+zigbee2mqtt? 

Is that possible? A zigbee device can only have one controller.

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49 minutes ago, jgab said:

Do you have the sensor associated both on HC3 and on HA+zigbee2mqtt? 

Is that possible? A zigbee device can only have one controller.

you did not understand..I have a sensor, first I connected it to HC3, it did not work correctly there, so I decided that MAYBE this is a problem ONLY with HC3, since fibaro still has support in TEST mode, unlike HA +zigbee2mqtt which has VERY strong support. Therefore, if the device did not work correctly on HC3, then I switched to HA+zigbee2mqtt and already tested there!

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1 hour ago, jgab said:

But in the post I also provide another example that polls the devices every minute and checks if any disappeared - and then posts an event that the rule can trigger on. And if you put it in the existingDevices list at startup if will check if the device exists then. 

well, I don’t even know what to say... it’s probably easier to check... but I don’t fully understand how it can be done, since when I delete something, it’s clear that somewhere in the system a log is generated with the word REMOVED or DELETED, or really logically can see ER4 but if it deletes itself then I don't know how to repeat the process to see if the rule worked!

[fastvd 7]

and so my test method is:
1) I am creating a virtual device, its id=1442
2) I describe this id in the rule
3) run ER4
4) manually remove the device with id=1442
5) ER4 clearly captures the deletion
Everything is ok here
Now the next test:
I take it to ER4 and describe a NON-EXISTING ID, ER4 does not see that there is NO such ID either when starting or when checking!

[jgab 2,642]

1 hour ago, fastvd said:

Everything is ok here
Now the next test:
I take it to ER4 and describe a NON-EXISTING ID, ER4 does not see that there is NO such ID either when starting or when checking!

If you expect it to be there you add it to the existingDevices table - then it will complain if it's not there at startup.

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39 minutes ago, jgab said:

If you expect it to be there you add it to the existingDevices table - then it will complain if it's not there at startup.

ok i didn't fully understand but i hope this is what i need. now more cosmetics... how to freeze output not just a message:
Device 1443 removed, and to give the name of this device?

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Jan, I have two pir sensors one of each side of the door.

I get a error but I have no clue why.

I added a check on the devices to see what is wrong but it does not give me a solution.

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[jgab 2,642]

It's rule 19 that starts with

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that cause the error, can you post that rule? In that rule you seems to be doing some kind of arithmetic(+/-) that causes the error because one of the values are nil 

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Jan the rule is 

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[jgab 2,642]

12 hours ago, Sjakie said:

Jan the rule is 

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One of your variables don't contain a number, or you spelt the variable name wrong...

Try

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and see what values they have.

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Jan, great thanks! A corrupt GV Value.

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On 2/16/2023 at 4:57 PM, fastvd said:

ok i didn't fully understand but i hope this is what i need. now more cosmetics... how to freeze output not just a message:
Device 1443 removed, and to give the name of this device?

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[jgab 2,642]

2 hours ago, fastvd said:

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16 minutes ago, jgab said:

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[jgab 2,642]

Yes, of course. The device is removed so it doesn't have a name...

 

The below could work, however for devices missing at startup we can't know the name unless you put it in the existingDevices table

 

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