Tutorial: Single scene instance / Event model

[jgab 1,968]

1 minute ago, Sjakie said:

Jan,

Will this work?

 Rule.eval([[hal.locatieGezin:isOn & hal.kamerBoven:isOff & hal.kamerBeneden:isOff =>

        1:alarm=true; log('Huis aanwezig armed'); 

        3:alarm=true; log('kamerBoven afwezig armed');

        4:alarm=true; log('kamerBeneden afwezig armed');

            ]])

Please advice,

//Sjakie

Yes, that should work. 

kamerBoven and kamerBeneden are lights?

[Sjakie 135]

Jan,

locatieGezin, KamerBeneden and kamerboven are buttons who reflect the presence of people, present or not.

Precense of kamerboven and kamerbeneden will be triggered by person in as door breached and pir is safe (its not 100% safe to use).

If we leave the complex I must press buton locatieGezin to arm and I can check if the state of the other rooms are okay.

Our complex is devided in 4 independant parts, so there are a few posibilities to arm.

 

This will be much easier as to do the same job in HC2.

Thanks for this beatifull ER4

//Sjakie

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Example of alarm handling on the HC3 and ER4

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Of course these events could be used to start other rules like simulating presence, turning off stuff etc.

The cool thing here is that we get a notification when the user turns on the alarm and we have the "delay time" to check if partition is safe. If not we abort the arming.

One could also setup a rule that watches if something is breached during the arm delay timespan and also cancel the arming.

Edited May 16, 2021 by jgab

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There are a couple of ways to interact with an ER4 QA.

 

1. postRemote

First an ER4 QA can use self:postRemote(<ER4 id>,event) to send an event to another ER4 QA. In a ER rule the command is named "remote"

It only works between ER QAs (it also works on ER3 on HC2)

Ex.

QA ID 44, sending QA

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QA ID 45, receiving QA

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2. fibaro.call

Just define a standard QuickApp function and let it send an event to trigger rules

QA ID 44, sending QA

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QA ID 45, receiving QA. In the receiving ER QA, just re-post the values in an event that can trigger rules.

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3. pubsub

This is like postRemote but it uses a publish/subscribe mechanism. The advantage is that the sending and receiving QA don't need to know each other's IDs.

QA ID 44, sending QA. It just publishes the event without specifying a receiving QA id. (it also works on HC2 and ER3)

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QA ID 45, receiving QA. All ER QAs that has done a subscribe on the event will receive the event.

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5. define ER UI buttons

There is a description how to add buttons to the ER4 QA UI and trigger rules when they are pressed. Description here

It's possible from Lua to call any UI button with some tricks but it's mostly for humans to interact with the ER scene.

However, the default is that the ER QA is of type "fibaro.com.genericDevice", and these devices don't have any predefined "methods". That means that a block scene will not have any options to interact with such a device besides 'state'.

'state' is a QA property that can be updated with self:updateProperty('state',<boolean>)

 

6. Define ER4 children

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Child are created with the self:child command. It takes a type, a name, and an "eid".

It creates a child if a child with the given eid doesn't already exist. The eid is different from the child's device id. The reason is that we want a stable id even if the child devices are regenerated. In the example above we refer to that child with eid 99 all the time. 

If you want to change the type of an existing child, just delete it in the UI, update the type in the self:child code  and restart the QA.

 

We can then define rules that triggers when the child is called (with UI or through fibaro.call(<child id>,...) )

In the example above we trigger on turnOff/turnOn and update the value property of the child device.

These children can be used from block scenes and when interacted with will trigger our rules - or we can trigger block scenes by updating the children's properties.

 

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Not really a way to interact with an ER4 QA but there is an option to add some status message under the QA icon in the dashboard view

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The message is a string and the timeout is a number in seconds. If the timeout is nil it will stay on until updated next time.

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Edited September 26, 2020 by jgab

[minsad79 19]

Hi jgab

Here is an example where you can use the ui button of another device quick app in ER4

Other quick apps like images

 

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5 minutes ago, minsad79 said:

Hi jgab

Here is an example where you can use the ui button of another device quick app in ER4

Other quick apps like images

 

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Is this an existing device or a QA you have made?

You could create child ceviche of type Sonos player or camera or tv and get a child device with similar buttons . Then you could make rules that trigger in them

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7 minutes ago, jgab said:

Is this an existing device or a QA you have made?

You could create child ceviche of type Sonos player or camera or tv and get a child device with similar buttons . Then you could make rules that trigger in them

it's kodi quick app

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22 minutes ago, minsad79 said:

it's kodi quick app

 

...and you want to click on the buttons from an ER rule?

Normally all UI buttons are bound to a QuickApp function of the device.

Ex. rule("@sunset => fibaro.call(21,'turnOn')")

so if you know the name of the function that's the best way to call it.

Otherwise you can call it via the api

rule("@sunset => api.get('/plugins/callUIEvent?deviceID=21&elementName=turnOn&eventType=onReleased&value=nil')")

but you need to know the elementName. That's possible to discover via the properties.viewLayout property of the QA sometimes. If it's a javascript UI it can be trickier...

 

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4 hours ago, jgab said:

 

...and you want to click on the buttons from an ER rule?

Normally all UI buttons are bound to a QuickApp function of the device.

Ex. rule("@sunset => fibaro.call(21,'turnOn')")

so if you know the name of the function that's the best way to call it.

Otherwise you can call it via the api

rule("@sunset => api.get('/plugins/callUIEvent?deviceID=21&elementName=turnOn&eventType=onReleased&value=nil')")

but you need to know the elementName. That's possible to discover via the properties.viewLayout property of the QA sometimes. If it's a javascript UI it can be trickier...

 

No opposite

I want to run the rules of ER4 with the following command values

 

EX. rule("fibaro.call(123,"play") => Bedlamp:value=50; Bedlamp:color={227,143,6,0}") 

 

This way? Will it work?

 

 

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21 hours ago, minsad79 said:

No opposite

I want to run the rules of ER4 with the following command values

 

EX. rule("fibaro.call(123,"play") => Bedlamp:value=50; Bedlamp:color={227,143,6,0}") 

 

This way? Will it work?

 

No,

try this (QA id of KODi os 123)

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If it works and prints "Play" then this would work

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...which is the same as 

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Edited September 27, 2020 by jgab

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Hi @jgab,

what can I do? Would restarting the HC3 help? Or do you have to do something.

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8 minutes ago, jwi said:

Hi @jgab,

what can I do? Would restarting the HC3 help? Or do you have to do something.

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Ouch, that was not good.

I have pushed a new version but because the error is in the update routine it will not work.

The function listFiles was renamed to getFiles...

What you can do is that inside 

function QuickApp:man() where you declare the rules add

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and the update will work

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7 minutes ago, jgab said:

and the update will work

 

Thanks, I will try.

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Hi @jgabER4 starts every minute new:

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im am using version 

 

E_VERSION,E_FIX = 0.5,"fix17"

 

i tried your tip, but nothings changes - still fix17

 

greetings

Karl Heinz 

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2 hours ago, jwi said:

 

Thanks, I will try.

 

@jgab , do you have any other tip for us?

 

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This error occurs after inserting the function

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20 minutes ago, jwi said:

 

@jgab , do you have any other tip for us?

 

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This error occurs after inserting the function

What a mess...

Please remove the "function self:listFiles(id) return self:getFiles(id) end" if you added it to main().

Unfortunately you need to patch the "EventRunner" file in the QA by hand.

Around line 700 there is a function Util.updateFile that needs to be replaced. See below.

Alternatively you install a new version of the QA and re-install your rules in the main file 

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Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Thanks @jgab ,

after patching eventrunner according to your instructions, everything is OK.

 

1 hour ago, jgab said:

Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

No problem at all. 

 

 

 

 

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On 9/26/2020 at 6:58 PM, jgab said:

 

Not really a way to interact with an ER4 QA but there is an option to add some status message under the QA icon in the dashboard view

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The message is a string and the timeout is a number in seconds. If the timeout is nil it will stay on until updated next time.

Ex.

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is there a way to send global variable value or local variable value in QA message?

 

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AND.

 

Which button content can be changed based on an arbitrary button like the attached picture? What is updated is the global variable value.

 

 

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Module 'childs' missing

 

Can I currently ignore this debug content after the update?

 

I proceeded the update in the following way.

 

I compared the structure of the newly installed Quick App. The quick app that was updated did not have a new module. (child)

 

When updating the existing Quick App, I hope that new module files are uploaded.

 

Is it okay to upload new module code? in  Existing used Quick APP.

 

Thank you very much for upgrading the maintenance and new features every time.

  

10 hours ago, jgab said:

What a mess...

Please remove the "function self:listFiles(id) return self:getFiles(id) end" if you added it to main().

Unfortunately you need to patch the "EventRunner" file in the QA by hand.

Around line 700 there is a function Util.updateFile that needs to be replaced. See below.

Alternatively you install a new version of the QA and re-install your rules in the main file 

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Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

 

Edited September 28, 2020 by Earybeongbeong7

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17 hours ago, jgab said:

 

No,

try this (QA id of KODi os 123)

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If it works and prints "Play" then this would work

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...which is the same as 

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working

Thank you for your advice